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Now I will have to have a proper look on iplayer.
Reason I thought it was Watson is I have got a few with Watson as a middle name - not same tree - and it just jumped out at me.
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Here is the screenshot, definitely Watson.
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Yes, I agree, definitely Watson - but you can see why I thought it was Walter (she says piteously).
Sooo...are we looking for a Clarence Watson then? Because, if Arthur Stubbs was Clarence's father, why didn't he marry Annie as soon as she was pregnant, or any time before the birth...why wait five months? Doesn't make sense to me, not without an explanation. As I can't see the 1911, does he distinguish between the two children or does he call them both his sons? OC |
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Here are the Horsfalls in 1901, with Annie working as a confectionary packer:
1901 census ancestry Aren't ancestry giving free access to the 1911 census at the moment, OC? (though you have to log in) Albert is "adopted son" and Clarence and Alwyn "son" on the 1911 census. Also Annie says she has 2 children of the marriage, both living. |
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Una did say she could see her father in Arthur when she was looking at the Rowntree group photo, but I suppose that might have been wishful thinking to an extent.
I enjoyed the programme, esp the first half. Una behaved exactly as I expected she would!
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I enjoyed the programme. I also quite like Una, although I realise she isn't to everyone's taste.
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Arthur Stubbs, age one, with parents John and Elizabeth, living in York in 1891.
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/65...l=ReturnRecord Fern Street John Stubbs, 25, paper hanger, b Bishop Auckland Elizabeth Stubbs, 22, b York Arthur Stubbs, 1, b York Ernest Stubbs, 5 mo, b York The family next door are named Watson. There is a birth for Arthur Stubbs in York, Oct-Nov-Dec 1889. Also in York in 1891 is Henry Stubbs and his wife, Emma, with three of their children born in Bishop Auckland - looks like this may be John's parents and Arthur's grandparents. http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/65...nSearchResults Newbiggin Street Henry Stubbs, 53, cabinet maker, b Darlington Emma E Stubbs, 40, b ???? Staffs (can't make it out) Frederick Stubbs, 18, cabinet upholsterer, b Bishop Auckland William Stubbs, 17, cabinet upholsterer, b Bishop Auckland Ellen Stubbs, 12, school, b Bishop Auckland Gertrude Stubbs, 9, school, b York Margaret Stubbs, 7, school, b York Emily Stubbs, 5, b York Elizabeth Stubbs, 1, b York Last edited by Shona; 25-07-13 at 08:32. |
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Yes, John is Henry's son, but Emma is not his mother - unless she gave birth age 14.
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/75...nSearchResults 1881 Newbiggin Street Henry Stubbs, 43, cabinet and plain maker, b Darlington Emma Stubbs, 29, b Portobella, Staffs John Stubbs, 15, paper hanger and painter, b Bishop Auckland Frederick Stubbs, 8, scholar, b Bishop Auckland William Henry Stubbs, 7, scholar, b Bishop Auckland Ellen Stubbs, 4, b Bishop Auckland Clark John Robinson, 24, boarder, cabinet maker, b Bishop Auckland |
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I did look at the address where Annie was born (55 Penley, Grove St, St Maurice) in 1881 and 1891 in case there might be a possible connection to anyone called Robinson living there. In 1881 the head was Sarah Stead, lodging house keeper, unmarried 55, and in 1891 the property was empty and described as a lock-up shop, so the address would appear to be a dead end research-wise
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I was wondering whether Watson was Arthur's mother's maiden name, but there is a likely marriage on FamilySearch 9 Jan 1889 St Olave's Marygate, York, John Stubbs 23, son of Henry Stubbs, and Elizabeth Brown, 20, daughter of Lot Brown.
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