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Old 15-09-19, 23:11
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Here is Sarah Biddlecombe in 1851 in Portsmouth:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...cklabel=Return


She is with:
Elizabeth Price sister
Joseph Price brother
William Warn visitor
Daniel Long grandson.


In 1841 she was with Martha Biddlecombe - presumably her daughter?
Martha, daughter of Thomas married Daniel Shawyer Long in 1846:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...2F00112764%2F2



Armed with Thomas's name, I looked for the marriage of a Thomas Biddlecombe to a Sarah Price.


Here it is: https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...2F00109081%2F2


1825, with William Warne as a witness!


So a single household proved her maiden name, gave clues to her daughter's marriage, and demonstrated that she was sufficiently close to one of the witnesses to remain in touch for a quarter of a century.


Such a shame this isn't my family!
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Old 15-09-19, 23:31
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Old 16-09-19, 09:09
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Merry stole my comment lol.

Why did you work all that out if it wasn't your family.
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Old 16-09-19, 10:49
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Sometimes the pieces all fit together from one entry.

1841 census has my widowed gt x 4 grandfather John Gray. Without a birthplace and as he is living in a different county from his birth county, I would never be able to be sure he was mine, but he is obligingly head of a household including his grand-daughter who has the more distinctive surname of Gillingwater and his sister-in-law who unmarried has kept her maiden name. This enabled me to be sure I found the right marriage for John and know that although he moved county the family were still close.
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Old 16-09-19, 11:34
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Two more instances:

My gt grandfather's marriage cert has a witness called Mott. He appears on the 1881 census staying with the family and is clearly a long-standing (probably from school) friend.

My father had a family story about a man and 2 sons who drowned while out fishing. Dad thought it was his grandmother's family, but she was illegitimate and an only child! She was determined because of the accident to ensure none of her sons became fishermen. I think it was actually his grandfather's 3 brothers, all of whom disappear without trace. Haven't found the incident but I can work out a rough date as his grandfather's occupation of fishing changes to ag lab - recorded in the baptisms of his children.
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Old 16-09-19, 11:42
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Merry stole my comment lol.

Why did you work all that out if it wasn't your family.
I was chasing the possibility that Thomas Biddlecombe was a Wiltshire man. I thought I recognised the name. One of my Sworn aunts (from Salisbury) may have married a James Smith and MAY have been a lodger with Sarah in 1841.

After I had posted this, I discovered Maria Trusler nee Sworn, the sister of the Elizabeth Sworn I was investigating, was in the same household as another Thomas Biddlecombe and his family!!!

That is clearly why I recognised the name, but whether the two Thomases ARE connected is more than I can say.
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Old 18-09-19, 22:00
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While looking for another marriage today, I found the marriage of William Mott a few months before his friend, my gt grandfather John David Robert Smoothy. As William had witnessed JDR's wedding I thought JDR might have witnessed his. He didn't but his address is the address of JDR's childhood home. Now I thought William was just there on 1881 census as a friend, but perhaps he was a long-term lodger. I now know that he was a plumber too!
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I have shoe boxes full of research on families that are absolutely nothing to do with me, I just researched them because I could! I thought everyone did that?

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Old 20-09-19, 22:59
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I have shoe boxes full of research on families that are absolutely nothing to do with me, I just researched them because I could! I thought everyone did that?

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I thought so too!

i researched the family living at Woolavington House Sussex in 1841 - because I could not understand the census entry (enumerator had written each person over two lines, to the total confusion of the indexing system).

And a woman who married into our family (i don't remember who she married) but to check her place of birth, I looked at the pre-marriage census and found she was living in the same small village as some of my ancestors as a servant. Of course, that needed looking into.

Sometimes I think I am researching a whole village, not just a family!

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Old 22-09-19, 09:55
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I have a big tree on Ancestry of Esher (small town in Surrey) families. I started with one name and linked a couple of thousand local people to that one name. It was a most enjoyable and fascinating experience. And I thought I was bonkers ................
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