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I assume this is the 1891 census entry for the Bertha Louisa Jones who was born 1889 in Wandsworth district (just in case it helps with the 1911):
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4 Frere St, Battersea
Thos Jones Head M 22 Waterman Kent Woolwich
Martha Ann " Wife M 22 Middx Chelsea
Bertha Louisa " Daur 1 Surrey Battersea.
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And the same family in 1901:
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10 Plough Rd, Battersea
Thomas is now a general labourer and there are more children as well as Bertha 12: Henry 7, Richard 5, Kathleen 2, Thomas 1 mth, all born Battersea.
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One of the boys, Richard Claude Jones, son of Thomas and Martha Ann, was baptised at St Peter, Battersea in 1897:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true

From this I have found the 1911 Census. They are at Battersea Rise and Louisa is with them:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true

So is this the Louisa who married Henry John Eubel/Enbel?

By the way, the wife/mother Martha has died and Thomas Jones has been married to Lily for 5 years. There is a daughter Gertrude Maud.

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This is the baptism of that Bertha Louisa Jones:
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9 Jun 1892 at St John, Battersea: Bertha Louise, daughter of Thomas James & Martha Ann Jones, father's occupation painter, abode 20 Benham Street, date of birth 5 Sep 1890. Also baptised the same day: Thomas James, date of birth 10 Dec 1891.

The 1889 birth reg has MMN Bailey, which matches with Thomas James whose birth was registered first quarter of 1892, and with the other children listed on the 1901 census entry, so it looks as though her year of birth has just been written down incorrectly on the baptism entry.
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One of the boys, Richard Claude Jones, son of Thomas and Martha Ann, was baptised at St Peter, Battersea in 1897:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true

From this I have found the 1911 Census. They are at Battersea Rise and Louisa is with them:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true

So is this the Louisa who married Henry John Eubel/Enbel?

By the way, the wife/mother Martha has died and Thomas Jones has been married to Lily for 5 years. There is a daughter Gertrude Maud.
It's tempting to think that Gertrude Maud is Bertha Louisa's daughter Bertha Gertrude, since I can't find a birth reg for Gertrude Maud at the moment, but I haven't found Thomas and Lily's marriage yet to check when it was and what Lily's maiden name was.
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Exactly my thoughts, Kate.
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1918 Electoral Rolls

High Street Battersea SW 11

114 Louisa Eubel

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High Street Battersea SW 11

24 Louisa Eubel
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The 1911 Census is giving the births as Godalming, but this word has been added later. It originally just said Surrey.
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By the way, the wife/mother Martha has died and Thomas Jones has been married to Lily for 5 years. There is a daughter Gertrude Maud.
Hmm, it actually says that Thomas has been married for 22 years! 5 children born alive, 5 living, 0 died - but it says that for Thomas, not for Lily. I would have thought that Thomas had at least 1 child who had died - the first Thomas jr, since they had another Thomas jr born later. Also it looks as though Harry or Henry is not included in the total as he is not with them in 1911 and there are 5 children actually named on the form. So the information on the 1911 census doesn't look very accurate!
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Hmm, it actually says that Thomas has been married for 22 years! 5 children born alive, 5 living, 0 died - but it says that for Thomas, not for Lily. I would have thought that Thomas had at least 1 child who had died - the first Thomas jr, since they had another Thomas jr born later. Also it looks as though Harry or Henry is not included in the total as he is not with them in 1911 and there are 5 children actually named on the form. So the information on the 1911 census doesn't look very accurate!
Woops, sorry! I was reading the wrong column.
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