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02-02-18, 18:35
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I assume you mean that James Moss's father was deceased, name James Moss? The address on the marriage certificate will be James jr's address, not his father's. I don't understand what you mean by a "father ps name", sorry. And I don't quite understand what you mean about Richard Wright's wife? Do you mean you have seen Richard on a census with a wife named Margaret? Or that the witnesses were named Richard Wright and Margaret Wright, which wouldn't necessarily mean that they were husband and wife?
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#22
02-02-18, 18:43
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Ah, this is the 1891 census entry which James18 suggested in post #5:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true 16 White St, Pemberton, Lancashire James Moss Head M 49 Coal Miner Lanc Pemberton Margaret Do Wife M 42 Pottery Labourer Do Do Mary Jane Do Daur 14 Cotton Spinner Do Do Margaret Ann Do Do 6 Scholar Do Do James Do Son 3 Do Do Richard Wright Lodger S 27 Coal Miner Do Do. So that must be your James's family.
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#23
02-02-18, 18:47
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And this is the 1901 census entry which James18 found:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true 16 off White St, Pemberton James Moss Head M 59 Retired Soldier (? I think that's what it says) General Labourer Lancs Pemberton Margaret Do Wife M 52 Colliery Surface Labourer Do Do Margaret A Do Daur S 16 Cotton Spinner Do Do James Do Son S 13 Labourer in Coal Mine Do Do Richard Wright Boarder S 39 Coal Miner (Hewer) Do Do.
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02-02-18, 18:53
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And Richard Wright married Margaret Moss in Apr-Jun 1908 Wigan register office or registrar attended. They are on the same GRO page number as James Moss and Jane Whalley, so it looks to have been a double wedding!
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02-02-18, 19:04
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Lancashire BMD has these births at Pemberton:
1877 Mary Jane Moss, MMN Leicester (GRO index shows registered Apr-Jun quarter) 1885 Margaret Ann Moss, MMN Leicester (GRO index shows registered Apr-Jun quarter) 1887 James Moss, MMN Leicester (GRO index shows registered Oct-Dec quarter). James Moss married Margaret Leicester in 1870 at St Thomas, Wigan. This is their marriage certificate, on ancestry: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true 24th Apr 1870, James Moss 27 bachelor, collier, residence Clayton St, father James Moss, deceased. Margaret Leicester 21 spinster, residence Miry Lane, father James Leicester, fireman. Witnesses James Leicester and Elizabeth Leicester.
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02-02-18, 19:15
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Other Moss / Leicester births at Pemberton:
William 1870, James and Mary Jane 1875, Ann 1879, Rachel 1881. There are possible deaths for this Mary Jane in 1870, age 0, for James in 1871, age 1, and for Ann in 1880, age 0. Also for Rachel in 1882, age 1. This looks like the family in 1881, except that Margaret's husband James is missing: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults 528 Ormskirk Rd, Wigan James Lester Head Mar 60 Furnessman in Coal Mine Lancashire Pemberton Mary Lester Wife Do 64 Do Do Margaret Moss Head Mar 32 Coal miner's wife Do Pemberton William Do Son 10 Scholar Do Orrell Mary Jane Do Daur 4 Do Do.
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03-02-18, 05:21
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I have purchased the marriage certificate for my grandma and grandfather , father James deseased was a coal miner , there is witnesses Richard Wright who I have seen on a previous census . And pd a Margeret Moss which could potentially be is mother or sister. It's quite difficult has there are a lot of moss 's in the area . But a clue to this was my py mum was a Margeret , and had sisters Mary Jane and Elizabeth .so I understand about naming your siblings from family's previous . Any help gratefully received. Thanks
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03-02-18, 05:42
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Could this potentially his wife , I'm unsure now who he married . The family in white st his him as the address on the census suggests it there . So I'm sure it's them . Now to establish the wife's name ? Thanks for all your help
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03-02-18, 06:34
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I think my grandmother remarried after James moss died in 1932 , I believe that's him , he never recovered from the war and shell shock I think he died in Orrell . No Pemberton my grandma married a Tom Atherton but I don't know what year , I remember him from being a child , as I never met my grandfather James . If this is any help thanks
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