Holden Family of Darwen/Blackburn Lancs

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by Luloo

Ooohhhh ALSO.... the witnesses to their marriage were R Holden and S Holden and it looks like 3 Malta/Radford Street in Darwen was where they were living during the war.

Is this Edward and Ann's marriage, or Walter and Ellen's?

[Luloo]

Found another piece of military paperwork that places Edward living at 4 Noble Street, Darwen, so this is def my granddad as this is the address noted on my dads birth cert.

[Olde Crone]

Luloo

Does his marriage record not give the name of his father?

There is only one birth for an Edward Holden in Darwen in 1891 and that gives his mother's maiden name as Woodcock.

27 October 1872 St John the Evangelist Darwen

Edward Holden (20) bachelor, labourer of Hollins
Alice Woodcock 21 spinster weaver of Ashton St
Father ROGER Holden labourer
William Woodcock Engine tenter
Married by superintendant registrar's cert.

Children of that marriage:

1872 William Edward
1874 Robert
1875 Mary Hannah
1879 Andrew
1881 Jane Ellen
1883 Richard
1886 Martha Alice
1889 Sarah Alice
1891 Edward
1894 Betsy

All born Darwen all mmn Woodcock.

This is sketch work and needs proving with certificates! Starting with Edward's birth 1891.

OC

[Luloo]

I found the military records online. Spoke to my brother who mentioned that he thought granded was in ww1 - WHAT!!! this came as a complete surprise to me!!!! Went digging and found them - as each piece came online it seemed to be right and then WHAM!! ... his wife stated as A Holden and living at Noble Street. His reg number is 39721

[Luloo]

Sorry - the Malta/Radford street is Edward and Ann early on. Apologies for my confusion.

[Olde Crone]

Even sketchier is this:

(Witnesses at marriage of Edward Holden and Alice Woodcock were Wm Thomas Haworth and Jane Haworth)

So - a posible maybe!

25 December 1839 St Mary Blackburn
ROGER Holden (x) minor bach carter Lower Darwn
Mary HAWORTH (x) full spinster weaver of Lower Darwen.

No father given for Roger (! a true Holden!)
Mary's father is John Haworth a weaver.
Professional witnesses.

OC

[Luloo]

Wow - how do you do this so fast?? I'll check this one out to see if it fits, and the other possible. The more I look at these military papers the more it seems that Edward was a Blackburn boy.....they take some reading but are very interesting...

[Luloo]

Originally Posted by Olde Crone

No father given for Roger (! a true Holden!).

OC

Haha - that's funny (and true !!!!)

[Olde Crone]

If you think Edward was a Blackburn boy then you MUST get his birth cert to find the name of his parents. There IS an Edward Holden born in 1891 in Blackburn, his mother's maiden name is Taylor and I cannot identify a marriage.

(I can't find a Walter Holden with mmn Woodcock or Taylor so it may be he is a cousin or other relative - or no relative at all)

OC

[Luloo]

I'll do some more digging through the army records and check on the other possible connections tomorrow. Thanks for your help tonight - its bed time for me (military records being book of choice haha)