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Old 06-03-13, 19:58
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Here are Thomas Frederick Bell's Freedom of the City of London Papers from 1818.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/...Jun+-+Oct.1253

Father is Thomas Bell, Wells St, merchant. The master is John Russell of Upper Pratt Place, Camden Town.
oooh that name Russell again
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Old 06-03-13, 20:10
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oooh that name Russell again
Keeping it in the family!
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Old 07-03-13, 05:47
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Very confused with Thomas Bell.. According to the Russell tree, if it is correct - Thomas Frederick Bell was born 1804 died 1838 .. so the Freedom of the City papers can't refer to him .. I'm getting the feeling that the Bells were merchants of the city of London for quite a few generations ..
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Old 07-03-13, 07:13
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1818 is the date when Thomas Frederick Bell started as an apprentice, so it will be the same one, Julie.
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Old 07-03-13, 08:34
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Excellent Kate.. one less mystery.
Anna Maria Bell's address in her will is Cambridge Heath and Regents Canal, both in the parish of Saint John Hackney. Sons: Thomas Frederick, Charles, John, James, Richard, Alfred, Edward, Russell, Michael; Daughters: Elizabeth Clementson, Mary and Maria. Executors of her will William Hogg and John Murray. written 6/6/1832. proved 8/12/1834.
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Old 07-03-13, 09:11
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Excellent Kate.. one less mystery.
Anna Maria Bell's address in her will is Cambridge Heath and Regents Canal, both in the parish of Saint John Hackney. Sons: Thomas Frederick, Charles, John, James, Richard, Alfred, Edward, Russell, Michael; Daughters: Elizabeth Clementson, Mary and Maria. Executors of her will William Hogg and John Murray. written 6/6/1832. proved 8/12/1834.
So Elizabeth Clementson Bell WAS a daughter of Thomas and Anna Maria. As she was baptised in Islington, while all the others were baptised St Pancras, I had wondered about her.

She married Samuel Bayley on 2 July 1835, St Pancras Parish Chapel. Witnesses: John Bell and Mary Bell.

I wonder where the Clementson came from?
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Old 07-03-13, 09:17
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I think it could be a Bell connection!!!
Anna Maria's parents are supposedly John Russell and Elizabeth Lloyd Sandiford who married in London in 1773 .. I have seen a transcript on a public tree which says she was a minor .. and a witness is Peter Sandiford.
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Old 07-03-13, 09:21
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The will of Thomas Bell 2/5/1818 of St. Clement Danes leaves his property to his brother Joshua so we can leave him out.
Think you are right Kate about the Thomas Bell who died in 1826 Lieutenant in the Artillery .. as it says Wells Street, which keeps coming up, that is the address on the baptisms and the apprentice papers say father Thomas Bell merchant of Wells Street .. Master John Russell .. who was probably his grandfather or his uncle.
He must have had a will .. I wonder where Liza is lol

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Old 09-03-13, 14:41
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Google Books has an obituary from the Gentleman's Magazine for one of Thomas's sons:
At Norfolk, Virginia, United States, Russell Bell, esq, of the firm of Hermann and Co, eighth son of the late Thomas Bell, esq, of Hackney. It is dated December but I can't work out what year! But the "of Hackney" fits with the 1826 death, and not the 1817 one.
If you look at the next page, the year is 1845.
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Old 09-03-13, 19:25
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Thanks Mary.
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