Genealogists' Forum - We have branches everywhere!



Go Back   Genealogists' Forum - We have branches everywhere! > Research > Research Questions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-03-21, 17:29
Phoenix's Avatar
Phoenix Phoenix is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,617
Default James Newman b c 1775

James died in 1847 in Upper Clarence St Portsea and was buried in Mile End Cemetery Portsea 3 February 1847.

He married Rhoda Cousens in Alverstoke in 1808 and they had two known children: James b 1811 and Mary Ann b 1820, both in Portsea.

Here is James with his wife and two children in 1841: https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...98?pId=2491981


This is his marriage in 1808: https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...2F00011909%2F2


So in 1808 he is described as of the parish and is literate. There is a serial witness and his wife's sister present. In 1841, he is a labourer, born in Hampshire.


I am descended from James and Rhoda's daughter, born eleven years after her brother.



I have no idea exactly where James came from. He is my 3rd great grandfather. His son appears to have had no children.



Can anyone suggest a potential baptism for James?


And, if James had siblings, is there any chance of finding a DNA match? Matches to descendants of his grandchildren are only about 40 cM.
__________________
The chestnuts cast their flambeaux
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-03-21, 17:39
ElizabethHerts ElizabethHerts is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 9,275
Default

How old was James when he died, Phoenix?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-03-21, 18:05
kiterunner's Avatar
kiterunner kiterunner is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 25,271
Default

If James was your 3xg-grandfather, then descendants of his siblings will share 4xg-grandparents with you (assuming they are the same generation as you) so they will be your 5th cousins. You have a low chance of sharing DNA with any particular 5th cousin, but if you do share some, they should show up in the "5th to 8th cousin" section of your match list. If you have lots of 5th cousins on that line then hopefully some will share DNA with you.
__________________
KiteRunner

Family History News updated 29th Feb
Findmypast 1871 census update
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-03-21, 18:24
ElizabethHerts ElizabethHerts is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 9,275
Default

Did he leave a will?

Alt Ref No 1847A/70
Title Will of James Newman of Portsea, Hampshire, labourer
Date 1847
Description At Storehouse, HM D'yard
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-03-21, 18:35
kiterunner's Avatar
kiterunner kiterunner is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 25,271
Default

FamilySearch has the baptism of a James Newman 16 May 1773 at Portsea St Mary, son of William Newman. And another 6 Sep 1777 at Whitchurch, Hampshire, son of Anthony Newman. Others are 12 Jan 1772 Bishops Waltham, son of John and Sarah; 27 Dec 1779 Fareham, son of Edward; 21 Mar 1778 Bishops Waltham, son of James and Elizabeth.

Findmypast has some more - 1775 Nether Wallop, son of William and Sarah; 1775 Owslebury, son of Jacob; 1777 Upham, son of James and Sarah; 1778 Owslebury, son of Jacob and Mary; 1779 Durley, son of James.
__________________
KiteRunner

Family History News updated 29th Feb
Findmypast 1871 census update
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-03-21, 18:38
kiterunner's Avatar
kiterunner kiterunner is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 25,271
Default

After working on DNA matches for a couple of years, I should add that I would be wondering whether James was really Mary Ann's bio father with such a big gap between children, though. Unless there are some other children who haven't come up in searches.
__________________
KiteRunner

Family History News updated 29th Feb
Findmypast 1871 census update
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-03-21, 19:43
Phoenix's Avatar
Phoenix Phoenix is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 6,617
Default

James died aged 71 in January 1847. And yes, that will is his. There was, unfortunately, another James Newman of almost the same age who died at the same time in Portsmouth.

Thank you for the list, Kite. How I wish he had more children, to hint at his parents. I have wondered myself whether Mary Ann was his daughter - but of course there could have been numerous miscarriages.
__________________
The chestnuts cast their flambeaux
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:41.


Hosted by Photon IT

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 PL3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.