Grandfather st Helens 1871 - Page 11 - Genealogists' Forum

Qwackers · #**101** 01-03-21, 13:51

I don't know what's is going on the question marks were a smiley emoji , my keyboard always does that lol ,but once again thanks

kiterunner · #**102** 01-03-21, 14:23

Is this James on the 1901 census?
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...4&pId=21904367

27 Wood Street, St Helens
Henry Burrows Head M 53 Coal Hewer Underground Lancs St Helens
Elizabeth Do Wife M 51 Do
James Do Son M 26 Coal Hewer Underground Do
Mary A Do Daur S 21 Lanc Skelmersdale
George Do Son S 18 Coal Drawer Underground Do
Henry Burrows Son S 14 Lanc Skelmersdale
Alice Do Daur 5 mths Lanc St Helens.

kiterunner · #**103** 01-03-21, 14:29

And this could be Sarah in 1901:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...9&pId=22094695
98 Chapel Lane, Wigan
John Jackson Head M 29 Licensed Victualler Lancs Wigan
Alice Ann Do Wife M 24 Do Do
Cyril George Do Son 1 Do Ince
Evelina Sarah Do Daur 5 days Do Wigan
John Atkins Serv S 26 Bar Man Do Warrington
Sarah Burrows Do M 24 Housemaid Do Bickerstaffe.

Maybe James and Sarah had split up?

Qwackers · #**104** 02-03-21, 04:13

hi , yes i think that's them , Henry burrows his father, elizabeth mother . i think you are right about them splitting up , maybe that's why edward appears at his grannies at bickerstaffe . on three censuses . as he is there in 1911 .Ive looked for a marriage for edward , but there's a few possibilities there are three from 1917 to 1929 , which are areas not too far away like prescot , liverpool and chorley . But obviously he could have travelled .Have you any ideas ? Thanks

Qwackers · #**105** 02-03-21, 05:02

Hi , I'm having no luck finding James burrows or sarah burrows on the 1911 census . i've looked on family search a few times with no luck .Im afraid it's not very good . They are there somewhere . But elusive i've tried searching for any person on each search but nothing . Any ideas ? thanks

Merry · #**106** 02-03-21, 06:57

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I wanted to follow James burrows son on Henry Burrows . James is my uncle , and he was alive when i was small ,so he hadn't died . It's a mystery . can anyone solve this .

If he was alive when you were young he should be on the 1939 Register. Do you know whereabouts he was living?

There are several in Lancs born around the right time. This looks like his baptism (Lancs OPC) and in 1881 he was recorded as aged 6 on the census:

Baptism: 19 Dec 1876 St Paul, Skelmersdale, Lancashire, England
James Burrowes - [Child] of Henry Burrowes & Elizabeth
Abode: Skelmersdale
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: Lister Smith
Register: Baptisms 1868 - 1892, Page 116, Entry 922
Source: LDS Film 1657566

Post #6 on ths thread tells me his mmn was Eccleston, so:

BURROWS, JAMES mmn ECCLESTON
GRO Reference: 1875 M Quarter in PRESCOT Volume 08B Page 666

...he was born either the end of 1874 or the start of 1875. Of course we don't know if he gave the correct dob in 1939, but if you know where he may have been living, then we may be able to track him down and maybe that will help with the 1911 census.

Merry · #**107** 02-03-21, 09:06

I did wonder about this burial...

James Burrows
BIRTH 1875
DEATH 14 Feb 1955 (aged 79–80)
BURIAL
Gidlow Cemetery
Standish, Metropolitan Borough of Wigan, Greater Manchester, England
PLOT C of E, 14-900
MEMORIAL ID 216715273 · View Source

Gravesite Details Age: 80, Place of Death: 6 Barton Fold, Pemberton, Notes: Retired Miner, Death date listed may be the interment date.

In 1939 there's a James Burrows dob 24 Nov 1874, living by himself at 146 Laithwaite Road, Wigan. At the same address, but listed as a separate household is widow Alice Aspey b 1875. The entry for James says he is single, but if he had a short and unsuccessful marriage, he may have thought of himself as single.

Obviously, I don't know this is the right man, but I've posted these details in case they trigger a memory for you, or there is something you recognise means it can't be the right person!

Qwackers · #**108** 02-03-21, 09:50

hi merry thanks for helping , i do know he lived in pemberton , i know laithwaite ,but it doesn't ring a bell . but it's not to say it isn't him . but the death could be right .

kiterunner · #**109** 02-03-21, 11:24

It's Laithwaite Road, Wigan, not Laithwaite itself.

Qwackers · #**110** 10-03-21, 13:41

Hi , Please note post 3 , George eccleston Born 1852 st. helens , he seemed to disappear later on and we couldn't trace him . I have found out that He enlisted in the army and was in the oxfordshire light regiment as a sargeant in Bengal India. where he married and had a family . He married a eliza pearce . I have been in contact with 3rd cousins in australia , they have kindly sent me lots of photos and lots of info of george and family in India . where he died . so thanks to you all for your great help it's a nice end to that part of the story .