John Tipling birth

[kiterunner]

My Granny used to tell us how she got her K's and T's mixed up when she was a child (spoken, I mean, not written); I wonder if it could have been the same with this family?

[Merry]

Which makes the 1841 census for the Kipling family a bit less likely to be correct

I hear what you say, but Charlotte's birth reg was with a T.

[Mary from Italy]

True, I was forgetting that.

[Merry]

Elizabeth Kipling/Tipling is 35 in 1841 and Elizabeth Nettleton is 35 in 1851 (45 in 1861 and 55 in 1871), but that couuld just be an error on the 1841.

What a pity the Marriage cert to Charles isn't available via Ancestry - I would love to see that.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Mary from Italy

I may be barking up the wrong tree here, but an Elizabeth Kipling married a Charles Nettleton in the Knaresborough RD in the 2nd quarter of 1841.

She and Charles are on the 1851 and 1861 censuses with children born after the marriage, one of them in Killinghall.

Which makes the 1841 census for the Kipling family a bit less likely to be correct, unless there's a typo in the marriage index too.

I still can't find Charlotte, though.

I suddenly realised - if the marriage was Q2 1841 then it's more likely Charles and Elizabeth Nettleton were already married than not for the 1841 census (census was 9th June, wasn't it?)

So I had a look and found a Charles and Elizabeth Nettleton, both listed as aged 25, and living at Killinghall.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=12244168

So the Elizabeth "Kipling" family return as favourites!!

[Merry]

Charlotte's birth reg may have had a T but her baptism has been transcribed with a K! Note there is no father listed, suggesting she might be illegitimate, which would fit if her father died in 1838.

Name: Charlotte Kipliey
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 May 1841
Baptism/Christening Place: RIPLEY,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Kipliey

[kiterunner]

This is Hannah's brother on the 1861 census, at Primrose Hill, Harrogate, transcribed as Tepling on ancestry:

William Tipling Head Mar 25 Yorkshire Killinghall
Isabella Do Wife Mar 27 Do South Stainley
Jane Do Daur 9 mo Do Harrogate.

In 1851 he is a farm servant in Thorner.

And in 1871, transcribed as Sipling on ancestry, at Starbeck, Knaresborough:
William Tipling Head Mar 37 Railway Plate Layer Yorkshire Harrogate
Isabella Tipling Wife Mar 35 Do South Stainley
Jane Tipling Daur 11 Do Harrogate
John Tipling Son 9 Do Do
Ann Tipling Daur 7 Do South Stainley
William Tipling junr Son 5 Do Do

And in 1881 at Station Parade, Harrogate Lane, Knaresborough:
William Tipling Head Mar 50 Platelayer (Railway) Yorkshire Starbeck
Isabella Do Wife Mar 48 Do South Stainley
John Do Son Unm 18 Do Starbeck
William Do Son Unm 16 Do Do
Richard do Son 8 Do Do
Thomas Do Son 4 Do Do

In 1891, transcribed as Sipley on ancestry, at Park Parade, Starbeck, Knaresborough:

William Tipling Head M 60 Plate layer Yorkshire Harrogate
Isabella Do Wife M 59 Do South Stainley
John Do Son S 29 Post man Do Harrogate
Annie Do Daur S 27 Do South Stainley
Richard Do Son S 18 Railway Man Do Starbeck
Thomas Do Son S 16 Telegraph Messenger Do Starbeck.

[kiterunner]

I was hoping he would have a relative other than wife and children with him on one of the censuses, but no luck there.

[Merry]

and 1901:

1 Station Parade, Harrogate

William Tipling (written Tiplin, transcribed Siplin) head widr 68 railway staff platelayer b Knaresborough
John Tipling son unm 39 postman (letter carrier) b Harrogate
Thomas Tipling son unm 26 ditto b Starbeck
Annie Tipling dau unm 37 housekeeper b South Stainley