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18-02-20, 15:42
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Helen Wishart Johnston
This is my great-great-aunt and she has always confused me!
She was born c. 1853 and the censuses say in Aberdeen. Her younger siblings were born in Kincardineshire, either Banchory Devenick or Fetteresso. This is before civil registration in Scotland and I can't find her birth/baptism. Her parents should be James Johnston and his wife Catherine Wishart. 1861 Census Berryhill, Carpenter House James Johnston Head Married 35 House Carpenter Born Kincardineshire Cookney Catherine wife Married 35 born Fetteresso Helen daughter 8 scholar born Aberdeenshire, Aberdeen Catherine daughter 6 born Kincardineshire, Banchory Dev. Mary daughter 4 born Kincardineshire, Banchory Dev James son 1 born Kincardineshire, Cookney This is possibly her in 1871: 1871 Census 6 Affleck Street Old Machar Aberdeen Jane Peter Head W 65 Clergyman’s Widow Aberdeen Old Machar Fanny Daur Unm 23 Aberdeen Leslie George W. Son Unm 16 Clerk Aberdeen Leslie Helen Johnston Servant Unm 18 General Servant Aberdeen Old Machar She married William Summers on 11th December 1875 at St Nicholas, Aberdeen. However, the marriage certificate different parents: William Summers Seaman (M.S)(Bachelor) aged 23 of 3 Hanover Street Aberdeen Father William Summers Mason (Journeyman) (Deceased) Mother Jane Summers M.S. Rennie?? married Helen Johnston (Spinster) aged 23 of 95 West North Street Aberdeen Father George Johnston House Carpenter (Journeyman) Mother Helen Johnston M.S. Smith Witnesses James Summers and William Fettes Her father James was a carpenter but the mother is wrong. NB. There is a family in Aberdeen with father George Johnston, mother Helen and daughter Helen of the same age as our Helen. HOWEVER, this Helen Johnston is still a spinster and at home with the above parents on the 1881 census, when Helen and William were married. George Johnston WAS NOT a House Carpenter, he was a Saw Miller. I kept thinking this wasn't her but two of her Summers children are with their grandparents on censuses: 1891 Census Bridge of Muchalls Cookney Fetteresso James Johnston Head Mar 65 Carpenter Kincardineshire Fetteresso Catherine Wife Mar 65 Carpenter’s Wife Kincardineshire Fetteresso William Summers Grandson 13 Scholar Aberdeenshire St Nicholas 1901 Census Bridge of Muchalls Fetteresso Cookney James Johnston Head Mar 76 Retired Carpenter Kincardineshire Fetteresso 3 windows Catherine Johnston Wife Mar 76 Kincardineshire Fetteresso Minnie Summers Grand Daur 10 Scholar Aberdeenshire St Nicholas 
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18-02-20, 15:49
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Have you found 95 West North Street, Aberdeen, on the censuses to see who was there?
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18-02-20, 15:57
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Sorry this is getting so long.
1881 Census 23 Shoe Lane Aberdeen William Summers 28 M Married Mariner M.S. Aberdeenshire, Aberdeen Helen 28 F Married Aberdeenshire, Aberdeen William 3 M Aberdeenshire, Aberdeen James 10 m M Aberdeenshire, Aberdeen DEATH William Summers 25 January 1890 on board the Sarah Mills Male 37 Mate Aberdeen Drowned Crew 1891 Census 23 Shoe Lane Aberdeen Helen Summers Head W 39 Seamstress St Nicholas Aberdeen James J Son 10 Scholar St Nicholas Aberdeen Catherine Daur 8 Scholar St Nicholas Aberdeen George Son 6 Scholar St Nicholas Aberdeen Williamina Daur 2 St Nicholas Aberdeen Rose Daur 9m St Nicholas Aberdeen Helen remarried in 1897 and this time she gives the correct parents! 22 May 1897 Helen Summers née Johnston married Patrick Cheyne Cumine at 52 Charles Street Aberdeen according to the Forms of the United Presbyterian Church He a widower, father Joseph Cumine Assistant Sanitary Inspector (deceased) Mother: Jane Cumine MS Gerrie (deceased) She a widow, father James Johnston Joiner Journeyman, mother Catherine Johnston M.S. Wishart 1901 Census 74 Hutheson? Street Aberdeen Patrick Cumine Head Mar 44 Contractor’s Storekeeper Aberdeenshire Aberdeen Helen Cumine Wife Mar 45 Aberdeenshire Aberdeen James Summers Stepson S 20 Baker’s Can Driver Aberdeenshire Aberdeen Bella Cumine Daur S 19 Combmaker (Scourer) Aberdeenshire Aberdeen George Summers Stepson 16 Grocers Messenger Aberdeenshire Aberdeen Patrick Cumine Son 12 Combmaker (Scourer) Rose Summers Step Daur 10 Scholar Aberdeenshire Aberdeen Alexander Summers Stepson 8 Aberdeenshire Aberdeen Jane Cumine Daur 7 Scholar Aberdeenshire Aberdeen John Strachen Boarder 20 Hairdresser Aberdeenshire Aberdeen Margaret Robertson Boarder 16 Domestic Serv. (General) Edinburghshire Queensferry 1911 Census 23 Canal Road, St Machar, Aberdeen Patrick C. Cumine Head 53 Chimney Sweeper Helen Wife 55 Rose Summers Step Daur. 20 Weaver Alex Summers Stepson 18 Stone Cutter Granite Works Jane Cumine Daur 17 Fishworker Patrick C Greig Grandson 4 ms These are the details of her death: Helen Wishart Cumine (Married to 1st William Summers Seaman 2nd Patrick Cumine Chimney Sweeper) died 8h 30m a.m. 41 Canal Road Aberdeen aged 82 Father: George Johnston House Carpenter (Deceased) Mother: Helen Johnston MS Smith (deceased) Acute Bronchitis, Myocardial Degeneration, Senility Informant: Williamina Stewart Daughter and Inmate (Present) I would have thought Williamina (Minnie) would have known who her grandparents were as she stayed or lived with them. My question is whether I have my facts correct. I have been agonising over this for ages. Last edited by ElizabethHerts; 18-02-20 at 17:24.
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18-02-20, 15:59
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18-02-20, 16:07
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Wonder if she was actually a niece to James and Catherine and was in effect an adopted daughter.
She continued this until her parents died and she remarried and reverted back to her birth parents.
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18-02-20, 16:08
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She also had an illegitimate son after William Summers was drowned.
Alexander David Murray Johnston or Summers born 25th November 1892 52 Charles Street, Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire This confirms William Summers drowned.
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18-02-20, 16:41
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Just in case it helps, FamilySearch has a birth in Old Machar, Aberdeen, in 1856, for Helen Smith daughter of James Smith and Helen Smith.
Can't find it on ScotlandsPeople, but I'm not very familiar with that site.
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18-02-20, 16:45
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Found it now, it's in the statutory registers. I didn't realise they started so early.
I don't have any SP credits at present, so I can't check it out.
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18-02-20, 17:20
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18-02-20, 17:23
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