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11-04-20, 16:05
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If that was your Martha, perhaps she was in straitened circumstances being a single mother. 
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11-04-20, 16:27
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In my research I've found that yes, there was a lot of scandal about illegitimacy, but mainly later in the 19th century and in the towns. In small villages it was quite common for people to have a baby before marriage or to produce one less than 9 months after the wedding. Much would depend on whether the woman in question was supported by the father or reliant on parish relief. I've got one relative whose occupation is given as "bastard" on one census, when he was with his grandparents. Another relative in a different branch of the family, also with grandparent, was called a "love child". So attitudes varied. If you factor in the number of pregnancies that would end in miscarriage or stillbirth too the rate of pregnancy in non-married women was probably quite high. My gt gt grandmother had her first child baptised 3 weeks after her wedding (in a register office in 1852). Her first name was Honor!
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11-04-20, 16:32
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11-04-20, 16:35
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haha - thanks all. Another eye-opener.
Cheers 
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11-04-20, 17:13
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Richard William Jones baptism
22nd April 1888 Rhosllanerchrugog https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...F879252693%2F1
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11-04-20, 17:30
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11-04-20, 17:36
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Mary Ann Jones died young, which explains why the children were with their grandparents on the 1901 Census.
She was buried 12th August 1893 aged 27 at Rhosllanerchrugog. https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...F878199836%2F1 NO! Not your ancestor! See my later posts. This is why we check, check and check again. The age etc fits but it isn't her. She appears on the 1911 Census with her family Last edited by ElizabethHerts; 11-04-20 at 19:12.
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11-04-20, 18:37
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Thank-you Elizabeth. I think this is where I get a little stuck. Hadn't even thought if a child is with their grandparents it could be because a parent has died.
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11-04-20, 18:52
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Do you know what other children David and Mary Ann Jones had?
I have Richard William, Elizabeth and David so far.
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11-04-20, 19:03
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David's baptism:
First name(s) David Last name Jones Birth year 1891 Birth date ? ? 1891 Baptism year 1891 Baptism date 04 Oct 1891 Place Rhosllanerchrugog County Denbighshire Country Wales Father's first name(s) David Mother's first name(s) Mary Ann Page 44 Record set Denbighshire Baptisms On FMP
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