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Phoenix · #1 05-03-10, 12:21

The IGI has birth, baptism & DEATH for one of my Riley babies.

MARTHA ANN RILEY
Birth: 22 AUG 1852
Christening: 21 AUG 1853 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England
Death: 02 NOV 1854

Parents:
Father: JAMES RILEY
Mother: ELIZA

She was baptised on the same date as my great granny. The register gave the dates of birth and where they were living at the time.

St Marys was a massive parish, with a register (roughly) per year. I could have sworn that the death wasn't in the margin. Indeed, why should it be?

So how has it got on the IGI?

Lynn the Forest Fan · #2 05-03-10, 12:55

Is it a submitted entry?

Phoenix · #3 05-03-10, 12:59

No, it's extracted, has been there for decades - did the research on this prob early 80s, using the IGI as a basis for checking the originals.

kiterunner · #4 05-03-10, 13:01

It's an extracted entry, Lynn. It could just be that the indexer for that parish decided to go through the burial register looking for infant deaths and connecting them to the baptisms, I suppose.

Phoenix · #5 05-03-10, 17:43

they'd have to be verging on the insane to do that, Kite. There are some 400 entries per year. And it SAYS death, not burial.

It looks as if someone has managed to attach extra info to the original entry. I always thought that it had to be a separate submission, even if it did relate to the same person.

kiterunner · #6 05-03-10, 18:54

Well, searching that batch for deaths, there are 859 of them.

Lynn the Forest Fan · #7 05-03-10, 18:56

I have found quite a few baptisms that have deaths entered as well, i can't remember off hand if these were extracted or not.

An example is James Barley bp 19/2/1787 whitton Lincs died 13/1/1789

Phoenix · #8 08-03-10, 10:57

It gets more curious.

Testing those deaths at random, each one has parents' names by them. They all seem to be the deaths of children or infants.

I assume "death" actually means "burial"

Some entries give approximate date of baptism.

I need to see the original registers!!!

kiterunner · #9 08-03-10, 11:37

So it does look as though the indexer went through the burial register looking for infants' deaths to add to the baptisms, doesn't it?

Phoenix · #10 08-03-10, 11:52

It's an incredible labour of love - but it makes the info really suspect if a matching job has been done. I can't sort all the baptisms into convincing familes as there were so many couples with identical names. If they have worked backwards and matched burials - where no parents names are given - to baptisms, they must have made the odd mistake along the way.