Harriett Carter Bodycote

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Anstey Nomad

The Joseph from 67 Denman Street who takes the loan is Joseph Noon Bodycote's father, the old rogue himself, who seems to have spent the money on one way tickets to Philadelphia for himself and his 'partner', Charlotte Noon, and then died within eighteen months (threads passim).

Oh, did Charlotte travel with her partner and Joseph jr at a different time? I had assumed that was mother and son on the ship, given it's mother and son on the 1860 census, but as you say Js senr died before 1860.......

[Merry]

lol I've just seen that Jos senr was 46 in 1855!!

[Anstey Nomad]

Joseph Senior died in January 1857 in Philadelphia.

His age at that point is up for discussion. Everyone thinks he was born on 21 April 1799, which would make him coming up for 58, but his army record says he was 19 in October 1813, which would push his DOB back to 1794 and make him 63-ish at the time of his death.

I'd assumed the passenger list was Joseph Senior and Charlotte. On one of the censuses, Joseph Junior says he emigrated in 1846, but if he did, he came back to the UK before 1851 and then presumably went again. There does seem to be a certain amount of backwards and forwards traffic in another branch of the family, which did surprise me.

[Merry]

Was Jos senr married to someone else before he got together with Charlotte?

[kiterunner]

There is this old thread about them (I haven't re-read through it yet):

http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...ad.php?t=20615

[kiterunner]

Also this one:
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...ad.php?t=14373

this one:
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...ad.php?t=10643

this one:
http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...ad.php?t=10388

and maybe others.

[kiterunner]

I generally ignore the immigration dates on US censuses because they are not very accurate.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

I generally ignore the immigration dates on US censuses because they are not very accurate.

Yes, he was thinking back arounf 50 years so not surprising if he was a few years out.

[kiterunner]

Re post #3, 1851 census, the birthplace for Harriet is actually given as Leicester on the image, probably meaning the city of Leicester.

[Merry]

Getting back to Harriet....

There's this couple in Liverpool in 1861:

42 Lambert Street, Liverpool

Richard Lewty head m 32 cab driver b Yorkshire Bradford
Harriet Lewty wife m 29 b Leicestershire Leicester

No children. No marriage.

There are some trees that have associated Richard with some children called Roach, but the census pages are mixed up on Ancestry (the two pages with Richard and Harriet are not next to each other, but they are by schedule number and address). The Roach children are a different household!

This seems to be Richard's baptism:

Richard Lewty
b 26 Feb 1828 bap 2 May 1828 at Bradford, St Peter (Bradford Cathedral) parents John (servant) and Mary

In 1871 Richard is back at home with his father:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...3?pId=26055712

and he is unmarried. It looks like he marries Mary Walker in 1872 and he is a bachelor:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...5?pId=10880389

So, there's a slim chance Harriet is Harriet Carter. Unfortunately I can't find anything to indicate that Richard and Harriet had any children.