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Old 17-04-10, 08:34
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Default Elizabeth Saunders Powell

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
Elizabeth Saunders Powell

Date and place of birth
28th June 1846 Bigbury, Devon

Names of parents
William Powell & Mary (Saunders)

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
unknown

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
27th September 1866 at Newton Abbot Registry Office to John Horwell

Occupation(s) - if any
1861 - House servant at age 14

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on.
1851 - Bigbury Village, Devon
1861 - 44 Brownston Street, Modbury, Devon
1871 - South Knighton, Devon
1872 - Ingsdon Higher Lodge, Ilsington, Devon
1881 - Lower Lodge, Ilsington, Devon
1891 - Ingsdon Lodge, Ilsington, Devon

Her husband is on the 1901 in Bickington but she's not there. I don't have a death ref for her. The 1902Q1 ref is not her

Date, place and cause of death
unknown

Date and place of burial / cremation.
unknown

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
unknown

Memorial inscription - if any
unknown
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Old 17-04-10, 08:53
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Is this the one we spent ages looking for a few weeks ago?
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Old 17-04-10, 09:24
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Is this the one we spent ages looking for a few weeks ago?
Margaret, this one rang a few bells with me too!

Was she on the 1911 census or do you think she had died by then?
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Old 17-04-10, 11:29
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Yes - this is the one !!

He is on the 1901 - RG13 2054 folio 31 p as 'Married' So she's probably somewhere.

I haven't got him on the 1911 but he didn't die until 1922

I don't know when she died
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Old 19-04-10, 09:26
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In 1911 John Horwell has Elizabeth b Bigbury with him, but she is only 54. Presumably seeing the actual page would help with this as she should say how long she and John have been married.
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Old 19-04-10, 09:28
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Oh lol If I put in 1866 as the marriage year for the 1911 (plus or minus a couple) she still comes up, so she's admitting to being married at age 9 or 10!! Maybe her age has been mistranscribed?
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Old 19-04-10, 09:32
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If John died in Newton Abbot district then I'd go for this possible:

Deaths Mar 1927
Horwell Elizabeth 77 Newton A. 5b 185

If you haven't got his death cert then you could do so to see if Elizabeth registered the death.
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Old 19-04-10, 09:35
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The image for the 1911 census shows:

John Horwell 65 Head Farm labourer
Elizabeth Horwell 64 Wife
Mary Horwell Daughter 43 Single
Emily Gross Daugther 29 Married Wife of Tin miner
Bertha Horwell Daughter 23 Single Deformed from birth

It says they have been married for 44 years with 7 children, 6 of whom are still alive.

Poor Bertha.

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That's a better age for Elizabeth Horwell!

Poor Bertha, as you say. I see in 1911 it says 'at school' for her occ and nothing in the end column. I wonder if this is her death?

Name: Bertha P Horwell
Death Registration Month/Year: 1935
Age at death (estimated): 48
Registration district: Newton Abbot
Inferred County: Devonshire
Volume: 5b
Page: 173

though she didn't have a middle initial at birth. I don't see a marriage of a Horwell to a Bertha P anything, nor a marriage for a Bertha Horwell to someone else.
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I have submitted a correction for Elizabeth Horwell's age on the 1911 census so hopefully it will show up correctly in the transcription before long!
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