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Old 28-12-11, 07:19
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Unfortunately my 3xgrtgrandfather's name was Richard Smith. We know he was baptised 14 October 1770 Tonbridge, Kent to parents Robert & Ann (Saxby). He married by licence (signed) 3 Oct 1793 at Speldhurst, Kent to Lucy Avery. Barden farm where Richard grew up is part in Speldhurst and part Bidborough. Richard and Lucy had 7 children baptised Bidborough between 1794 and 1808 and then 1811 and 1814 at Tunbridge Wells. Lucy was buried 25/6/1832 aged 57 (according to a family source). On free Reg it said 20/6/1832 Dartford, Kent. The story goes that after Lucy died he went to pieces and disappeared. Now the problem is finding his burial over the next 20 odd years, as there are about 80 Richard Smith's buried in Kent in that time frame. I have found 3 at Tunbridge and 3 at Ticehurst, where Lucy's mother's family were.
What I am hoping is that some clever person can find Richard in the 1841 census, he would be around 70-75. He was a farrier, but possibly a farmer and ag labourer too. I hope this may indicate where his burial may be.

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Old 28-12-11, 07:32
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Sorry Julie.

Ancestry is being a pain. When I asked for all Richard Smiths living in Kent it says "no matches found" and when I ask for Richard Smith it has got nearly 3,000 including ones living in Kent. I can't seem to narrow down the search. I'll try again later unless someone else is more successful.
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Old 28-12-11, 07:37
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Grr! Got a list of Smiths in Kent at last but now when I click to see the individual records it gives me that scary boy with a rope and says "check again later".
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Old 28-12-11, 07:39
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Sorry Julie, I'm having the same problem as Nell.
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Old 28-12-11, 07:47
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Thanks girls for trying .. too many looking for too many Smiths lol
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Old 28-12-11, 08:02
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Hi Julie, is this him?

1841 Census
SMITH, Richard
TONBRIDGE, Kent
HO107 piece 463 folio 9/31 page 10
Mount Sion Sackville Cottage, Tonbridge, Tonbridge Wells

Richard Smith 75 Farrier
Richard Smith 45 Farrier
Mary Smith 50
Ann Smith 11

All born in Kent.
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Old 28-12-11, 08:10
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I was just going to suggest you give us the children's names!!

Why would the Dartford burial be the right one for Lucy? Her age is over 10 years out. If they had moved that far, then I think Richard could have gone anywhere - London, Surrey and Essx all being within a short distance!

Do you know anything more about the supposed burial 25th June 1832?
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Old 28-12-11, 08:58
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The Smith books don't give sources unfortunately. That is them in the 1841 - Elizabeth .. Many thanks!!. I've got a location .. wow
Children: Mary Ann bapt 1794 and Richard 1796 William 1798 Lucy 1800 m 1820 George Hopkins (shoemaker) John 1803 Robert 1805, Dedemiah 1808 m 1828 Edward Finch, Thomas 1811 and James 1814. Not sure who Ann 11 is. (Ann, Richard, Mary, Diedemiah, Sarah, Elizabeth are all siblings of Richard as well)
Merry, looking at the book it says Lucy Avery bapt 7/8/1773 (I've written Speldhurst) Buried 25/6/1832 age 57 at Speldhurst.
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Old 28-12-11, 09:02
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I only found the Dartford burial on Free Reg and the date fitted roughly. I'm not sure if Dartford is near Speldhurst. Tonbridge, Bidborough, Speldhurst are not far apart.
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Old 28-12-11, 09:05
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Given where the 1841 family are, I would ignore that burial as it's far more likely Lucy was buried locally.
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