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Old 07-03-10, 20:02
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Name: John SOUL (SOLE, SOULE or SEWELL)

Date and place of birth: 1825 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

Names of parents: John SOUL and Mary

Date and place of baptism: Despite searching lots of parishes in and around Cheltenham, this has never been found. Possibly non-conformist as he wasn't married in Parish Church.

Details of marriage: 3 Feb 1845 at Salem Baptist Chapel, Cheltenham, Glos to Clementina Murray BARTRAM. Both single, full ages. His father’s occupation: Clothes Dealer. Witnesses: John Brown, Mary Brown.

Occupation: Tailor & Journeyman Tailor

Addresses where they lived:
1841 Census: Cleveland Passage, Cheltenham, Glos
1845: 14 St Paul Street South, Cheltenham
1851 Census: Albion Street, Cheltenham
1852: 3 Albert Street, St Pauls, Cheltenham
1858: 7 Kington Cottages, Cheltenham
1861 Census: 4 Kington Cottages, Cheltenham
1871 Census: 15 Hanover Street, Cheltenham
1881 Census: 24 Albert Street, Cheltenham
1882: 24 Albert Street, St Pauls, Cheltenham


Date, place and cause of death: 6 May 1882, Cheltenham General Hospital. Calculus in bladder, Sithotomy, Peritonitis, Certified by H Ewbank MRCS.

Date and place of burial: 13 May 1882, St Mary’s, Cheltenham

Details of will: Not found

Memorial inscription: Not found

John seems to have been involved in the Chartist movement. A John SOUL, Tailor of 7 Russell’s Court, Cheltenham was nominated to the General Council [source: The Northern Start and Leeds General Advertiser, Jan 1842] 

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Sabrina, it might be worth looking at this (year 2 years out, though):

http://www.bmdregisters.co.uk/bmdr/r...SUwRQ==&page=2

He is called John Souls, but it is Gloucestershire.
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The father of that one is William, though (and the mother is Sarah).

I didn't realise you could use the free search on BMD Registers to tell you the parents' names other than by guessing various names till someone did it for me a few weeks ago, but I've figured out how to do it now. Go back to "standard search" and put in surname only, as it appears on the record you found, tick "yes" for Exact Match, choose Event Type Births & Baptisms, and tick to search all names. Then page through the results to find the entry you had before and it will show you the parents' names. I don't think this would work for common surnames, though.
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The father of that one is William, though (and the mother is Sarah).

I didn't realise you could use the free search on BMD Registers to tell you the parents' names other than by guessing various names till someone did it for me a few weeks ago, but I've figured out how to do it now. Go back to "standard search" and put in surname only, as it appears on the record you found, tick "yes" for Exact Match, choose Event Type Births & Baptisms, and tick to search all names. Then page through the results to find the entry you had before and it will show you the parents' names. I don't think this would work for common surnames, though.
Kiterunner, thanks for that information - I didn't know that. (Off to try it out!)
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Thank you Elizabeth for that link - I had no idea that little gem of a site existed!! Thanks to KiteRunner for the search tips - it even tells you which chapel they were baptised in when you click on the 'recordset' - very useful!

His father was definitely John though (according to his marriage cert).

I have just looked at my notes again and I think I have found baptisms of his brothers and sisters in Cheltenham from 1828 onwards - parents names John and Mary SOUL, of Cheltenham, occupation: Salesman. Maybe they travelled around and he was baptised before they got to Cheltenham. Their marriage has proved just as elusive!
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