What became of Caroline Gooch post 1871 census?

[kiterunner]

There is a Hackney workhouse admission record for a Caroline Gooch 19 Dec 1873, born 1852, calling (i.e. occupation) "nil":
https://www.ancestry.com/interactive...=successSource

I would imagine she is the same one who had the baby in early 1874, and the same one who was daughter of William and Harriet.

[Merry]

I'm just eating my dinner, but wanted to say I didn't get anywhere with the marriage for a Caroline Gooch in 1873 St Geo. Hanover Square. I didn't even manage to work out for certain which man was the groom!

[Janet in Yorkshire]

Thank you Merry and Kite.
I too think the 1874 death reg is most likely for the Hackney Caroline. I think if mine had been pregnant, one of her sisters would have taken her in rather than her having to rely on the Workhouse for support. It seems the Gooch family had rudimentary literacy and calculating skills, although Beta and one of the other sisters each sliced a decade off their ages on marrying.
They were also usually quite good about giving correct county of birth, but Caroline Gooch born Lincolnshire isn't much help.

Jay

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by Merry

I'm just eating my dinner, but wanted to say I didn't get anywhere with the marriage for a Caroline Gooch in 1873 St Geo. Hanover Square. I didn't even manage to work out for certain which man was the groom!

The other three names on the page are:
John Henry R Miller
Sarah Swanwick
John Thornton.

There are some Thornton / Swanwick births in the subsequent years:
John Harold 1874 Lewisham, Edith Sarah Elizabeth 1875 Hackney, Willmot Francis 1876 Pancras, May Florence 1878 Islington.

On Edith Sarah Elizabeth's baptism, the parents are John and Sarah Anne.

So it looks likely that Caroline Gooch married John Henry R Miller.

[kiterunner]

Not had any luck yet finding John Henry R Miller to see whether his wife was born in Lincolnshire.

[Janet in Yorkshire]

I've not been able to find John Henry and Caroline in 1881 census, nor any Miller/Gooch births.

Jay

[Merry]

There's a John Henry Riggs Miller born/bap in 1853 in Calcutta, but he probably isn't the groom at the 1873 marriage. He did get married in 1882 in Ireland, to Annastatia McInerney, but said he was a bachelor.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Janet in Yorkshire

Thank you Merry and Kite.
I too think the 1874 death reg is most likely for the Hackney Caroline. I think if mine had been pregnant, one of her sisters would have taken her in rather than her having to rely on the Workhouse for support.

Jay

I have to say that I have been shocked at the instances where my family did not step in.

In one case, a man and his child died in the workhouse, and his poor wife, a Londoner, was abandoned to the care of the Poor Law in Norfolk.

In another, children were abused by their step mother, and they ended up in the workhouse, while the half siblings continued in the family.

In the first case, at least, the removal order was from a village where the rest of the family were living.

[Janet in Yorkshire]

Thank you for your contributions Merry and Phoenix.
I do wonder if my Caroline just set up house with someone and took his surname. Still can't follow this theory through with later census records, though.

Jay

[Janet in Yorkshire]

My Caroline Gooch had a brother named James, who married at Islington parish church on 12 April 1880. One of the witnesses was Caroline MILLER - the other was Francis Bingham, probably the father of the bride Mary Bingham.

Good clue or a red herring?

Jay