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Another marriage at Dundry which could be connected:

William Sage jun OTP bach and Susanna Perry OTP sp married by banns 9 Jul 1820, wits Elizabeth Perry and Geo Taylor.

And there is an Ann Sage marrying a John Light there 26 Mar 1831, so I hope she isn't a daughter of William and Jane! Witnesses for that one are Geo Taylor (again) and Lydia Fear (I think that's what it says.)
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1851 census
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William Street Head Mar 42 Excavater Somerset Berrow
Mary Street Wife Mar 42 Do Wife Bristol St Philip's
Willm Street Son Un 16 Do Somerset Dundry
Jane Street Daugr Un 13 Living at home Do Dundry
Sarah Street Do 11 Do Do Dundry
John Street Son 4 Do Bristol St Philip's
Peter Street Son 2 living at home Monmouth Chepstow
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My John Vowles and Ann Sage's eldest son, Alfred, was baptised at Dundry 27 Jan 1839 and their abode is Dundry on the baptism record. I did have that info although I hadn't posted it as a residence in post #1 of this thread - I must have found it since we did TO3G.

There is a John and Ann Light couple just after William and Mary Street on the 1841 census (in Dundry), but if they are the couple who married in 1831, Ann age 45 seems to be too old to be a daughter of William and Jane Sage - that is, if the William who was Jane's husband is the one who died in 1839 age 54. Maybe she is William's sister? Meaning my Ann could still be William and Jane's daughter.
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William Sage jr and Susanna had the following children baptised in Bristol:
William 19 Jul 1821
Rebecca 10 Aug 1823
Henry Francis 17 Jun 1827
Joseph Ash 7 Jun 1829
Ann Maria 16 Jan 1831

Trying to find them in 1841 but no luck yet.

In the 1830 poll book for St Philip and St Jacob, Bristol, William Sage jun is a grocer, address Upper Easton.

Edit - maybe leave them for now as I don't really know whether they are part of William and Jane's family anyway.
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According to the GRO online birth index, Alfred Seal born 1864 Bedminster was illegitimate (it has a dash for MMN.) So if he is the same one as the 1871 visitor, not much help.
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This must be the Jane Sage who died in 1856, on the 1851 census:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/88...cklabel=Return
She is unmarried, so not the Jane who was married to William Sage. So I need to have another look for that Jane's death.
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Here are some more children of William Sage, sawyer, and Jane, baptised at Dundry:
Elizabeth Sage 7 Jul 1822
James Sage 23 Jan 1825
Samuel Sampson Sage 11 Oct 1835 age 8
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Starting with Samuel, he married a Caroline Hemmings in 1848 in Chepstow, and in 1851 and 1871 they are using the surname Griffin or Griffen, but in 1861 they are Sage. So I wonder where the name Griffin came from? But will have to look at that later or tomorrow.
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Still not found anything to confirm that my Ann Sage is the daughter of William and Jane.
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There is a William Sampson Sage tried at Somerset Summer Assizes 1833 for robbery, found not guilty. Given that William and Jane had a son Samuel Sampson Sage (aka Griffin) baptised in 1835 (age 8), I wonder whether this is the same William, or possibly a son of his? The Criminal Registers on ancestry don't show William Sampson Sage's age.
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