Genealogists' Forum - We have branches everywhere!



Go Back   Genealogists' Forum - We have branches everywhere! > Research > Members' Direct Ancestors > Take One 3xGreat-Grandparent

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 20-12-10, 11:46
kiterunner's Avatar
kiterunner kiterunner is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 25,263
Default Ann Sage

Name - "official" name and what they were known as Ann Sage
Date and place of birth About 1815, Bristol (1851 census states St Philip's Bristol)
Names of parents William Sage and Jane nee Oswald / Oswell
Date and place of baptism - if applicable Not found
Details of each of his or her marriages - if any 20th Feb 1837 St Mary Redcliffe, Bristol, to John Vowles, witnesses Samuel Harwood (parish clerk) and Jane Sage
Occupation(s) - if any Housewife
Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
1839 - Dundry, Somerset
1841 - Wick, Bishop's Sutton, Somerset
1851 - 29 Browns Row, Bedminster, Somerset
1861 - 29 South Church Street, Cardiff, Glamorgan

Date, place and cause of death 1870 Cardiff, not got cause
Date and place of burial. 5 Jan 1870 St Mary's, Cardiff
Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable None
Memorial inscription - if any Not found
__________________
KiteRunner

Family History News updated 29th Feb
Findmypast 1871 census update

Last edited by kiterunner; 09-12-18 at 12:03. Reason: add parents' names
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 20-12-10, 13:08
Merry's Avatar
Merry Merry is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Near Christchurch, Dorset
Posts: 21,302
Default

I'm sure we must be related, Kate! I can't imagine a Sage who has lived in Bishop's Sutton not being connected to mine, even if she was born in Bristol. Pity Ann didn't wait until the summer to be married
__________________
Merry

"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 20-12-10, 14:10
kiterunner's Avatar
kiterunner kiterunner is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 25,263
Default

The number of times I've wished they'd waited till July to get married, Merry!

Ooh, I've just found the baptisms of some of their children (including my 2xg-grandfather) on the FamilySearch beta site; I already had the children's names etc but hadn't seen the baptisms before.
__________________
KiteRunner

Family History News updated 29th Feb
Findmypast 1871 census update
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 17-11-14, 16:06
kiterunner's Avatar
kiterunner kiterunner is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 25,263
Default

Could possibly be the mother of Martin Sage baptised 25 Dec 1836 at Clifton St Andrew, mother Ann Sage of Hotwell Rd, servant. There is a Martin Cage age 5 at Hotwell Road in 1841 but head of household is a Jane Cade 40 (born out of county) and I haven't found him after that. Not the Martin Sage who died in Suffolk in 1849 as that one was 82.

Edit - now we have the image of that baptism available on ancestry:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults

It says Martin, son of, and then baseborn has been added in; parents' names "Martin M &" crossed out, Ann Sage. So it looks likely that his father was Martin M......
__________________
KiteRunner

Family History News updated 29th Feb
Findmypast 1871 census update

Last edited by kiterunner; 06-09-19 at 16:46. Reason: add info from the image of Martin Sage's baptism record
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 17-11-14, 21:20
Merry's Avatar
Merry Merry is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Near Christchurch, Dorset
Posts: 21,302
Default

To save me looking on the censuses, please would you tell me the forenames of your Ann's children...........
__________________
Merry

"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 17-11-14, 23:05
kiterunner's Avatar
kiterunner kiterunner is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 25,263
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merry View Post
To save me looking on the censuses, please would you tell me the forenames of your Ann's children...........
Alfred born 1838 Bedminster died 1915 Cardiff
John born 1841 Sutters Wick, Somerset, died 1855 Bedminster
Albert William born 1843 Bedminster, died 1899 Cardiff
Edwin Samuel born 1847 Bedminster died 1885 Cardiff
Amelia Ann born 1849 Bedminster died 1918 Cardiff
Emily born 1852 Bedminster died 1895 Cardiff.
__________________
KiteRunner

Family History News updated 29th Feb
Findmypast 1871 census update
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 17-11-14, 23:26
Merry's Avatar
Merry Merry is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Near Christchurch, Dorset
Posts: 21,302
Default

Hmmm....I was hoping she might have used some of the names all over my Sage lines - Joanna, Nathaniel, Aaron, Jonas, Isaac, Arabella and Nehemiah. Perhaps her OH didn't like those names?

I'm tired now but will have a look through my Sage notes tomorrow to see if I have anything useful.
__________________
Merry

"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 17-11-14, 23:40
kiterunner's Avatar
kiterunner kiterunner is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Nottingham
Posts: 25,263
Default

Thanks, Merry.

Just so I don't forget I have done this and do it all over again - Jane Cade is in Rosemary St, Bristol St Paul, in 1861, age 68, widow, straw bonnet maker, born Bristol, and in 1871 she is at Lenards Court, Broadmead, Bristol, widow, age 79, born Swansea, assuming it is the same person (surname is down as Eade in 1871). But I can't find her in 1851 to check whether Martin Cage is with her. This is all likely a red herring as (a) I don't know whether Martin Sage's mother is my Ann (b) I don't know for certain that Martin Cage is Martin Sage though I should think so and (c) I don't know what connection there is with Jane Cade except that he is in her household in 1841.

Jane Cade died Jan-Mar 1875 Clifton age 81.
Likely marriage: Jane Thomas / William Cade 15 Aug 1819 Swansea.
__________________
KiteRunner

Family History News updated 29th Feb
Findmypast 1871 census update
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 18-11-14, 07:46
Merry's Avatar
Merry Merry is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Near Christchurch, Dorset
Posts: 21,302
Default

I keep looking at Joseph Sage who married Frances Hogdon in 1810. Frances would have been about 30-34 according to 1851/61 census ages (he was a lot younger). They both say they were b in St Phillip's and were living there for the censuses (she is listed as Fanny). I can only find the bap for one child, Joseph in 1813. I'm surprised there were apparently no more.

That's not especially helpful, is it!!
__________________
Merry

"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 18-11-14, 12:06
Merry's Avatar
Merry Merry is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Near Christchurch, Dorset
Posts: 21,302
Default

I've gone through my Sage stuff, but nothing came of that.

Would you like to post the image of the witness sig from the 1837 marriage entry in the hope we can decide the sex of the writer?!!
__________________
Merry

"Something has been filled in that I didn't know was blank" Matthew Broderick WDYTYA? March 2010
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
to3g8

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:18.


Hosted by Photon IT

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7 PL3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.