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Old 23-07-13, 10:51
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Default John Walter Lee

Banns were called at St Mary, Islington, London, on the 10th, 17th and 24th Oct 1875 for the marriage of John Walter Lee and Bertha Flora Grzinish, which took place on the 8th Jan 1876 at that church.
John was full age, a bachelor, clerk, abode Alma Road, father Robert Lee, civil engineer. Bertha full age, spinster, abode 145 Offord Road, father Philip Grzinish, jeweller. Witnesses Henry Billey and Henry Smith.

On the 1881 census Bertha is married, age 25, born London, living with her parents Philip and Ester Grzenish in Islington. She has three children, Lillie 5, Fredk 3 and Mirriam 16 months (?), all born London.

1891 36 Horsell Road, Islington
Bertha Lee Head Wid 33 Own means London
Fred Do Son 12 Scholar Do
Lilian Do Daur 14 Milliner Apprentice Do
Marion Do Daur 11 Scholar Do
Bessie Young Serv S 16 Do
Eliza Saunders Lodger M 40 NK

1901 think this is her with a family called James, nothing filled in for relationship to head:
20 Cathcart Hill, Islington Bertha Lee Wid NK (50) Own means London

And in 1911 at 138 Delaware Mansions, Maida Vale, London:
Mrs Bertha Lee Head 54 Widow 3 children, 3 living, Domestic At Home, born Houndsditch London, private means. 4 rooms in house.

Death registered Jan-Mar 1935 Hammersmith, Bertha Lee age 80, corresponds to this 1935 National Probate Calendar entry:
LEE Bertha of 31 Digby-mansions Hammersmith Middlesex widow died 30 January 1935 at the West London Hospital Hammersmith Probate London 14 March to Lilian Sutcliffe (wife of Hornby Sutcliffe). Effects £239 3s 6d.

But can anyone see what happened to John Walter Lee?
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On the 1935 London e roll is a Hornby Windsor Sutcliffe with a Lilian Towerzey. In 1931 they also have a Gladys Towerzey with them. In 1930 Lilian's surname is Sutcliffe. Hornby Windsor Sutcliffe died in 1935 leaving a lot of money with probate granted to a bank.

On the 1911 census there is a Lily Towerzey age 38, married, not known how many years, no children, no birth place shown, visiting a family called Groves in Paddington, London. There is a Gladys Lilian Towerzey birth registered in Jan-Mar 1903 Paddington. And Gladys Towerzy age 8, born London, is at school in Clacton on Sea, Essex. Guess what? I can't find a marriage between a Towerzey and a Lily or Lilian, or a birth of a Lily / Lilian Towerzey. I'm thinking that Lilian Towerzey is Lillie Lee and should be married to a Mr Towerzey.
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Having little success tracking down John Walter Lee.

There is a chap by that name who appears in court in Manchester in 1880 charged with attempting to commit suicide. He is described as a gentleman from London.

On the London electoral registers:

Walter John Lee, 1873, Holloway Road
Walter John Lee, 1875, Chalfont Road
Walter John Lee, 1876, Holloway Road
Walter John Lee, 1877, Chalfont Road

As a civil engineer, he may have worked abroad.
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It's his father who was a civil engineer, Shona. John is a "clerk" on his marriage. I'll have a look at the court records, thanks for looking.
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The John Walter Lee in the court records is a Solicitor, age 27, so could well have been a solicitor's clerk in 1876 and qualified as a solicitor between then and 1880. There is a John Walter Lee birth registration Jan-Mar 1852 Lambeth which could be him.
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Ooops. Misread the info on the teeny phone screen.
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Ah, there are some newspaper reports about his attempted suicide - "The police had corresponded with the prisoner's relatives in London, but no reply had been received." Seems to fit!
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"And in explanation of this the accused said it was hardly likely they would reply, as he was not on friendly terms with them."
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His address is Tottington Park, London, in one of the newspaper reports. But there doesn't seem to be such a place? Maybe supposed to be Torrington Park which is in North London.
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1881 census at 76 Liverpool Road, Islington, with a family called Harding:
John W Lee Boarder Mar 29 Solrs Manag Clerk Lambeth.
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