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Old 20-06-20, 22:57
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Default Arthur Ansell Bullock-Webster

I am trying to sort out this man and his origins. He is believed to have gone to Australia/New Zealand in about 1881

He married Amelia Watson in 1883 in Tasmania as Arthur Berkeley Webber
https://search.findmypast.com/record...M%2F0000079526
Unfortunately the marriage entry does not give parents names.

On Papers Past I discovered that in 1885 he changed his name by deed poll to Bullock-Webster

In 1891 and 1901, 1911 as Arthur A or Ansell Bullock-Webster, he says he was b c1852 Westbury Bucks, and Westbury is in Brackley reg district.

I think that he must be the same person as Ansell Thomas Edward Webster b March q 1852 Brackley, mmn Price, baptised 1852 Westbury, parents Julia and Thomas.
Thomas and Julia nee Price married in France in 1849, which may be why I cannot find them in 1851, and I have them separately in 1861 and together in 1871, Julia, b c1826 Tenby and Thomas b c1823 Henden, but they are never with Ansell, and I cannot find him at all between his baptism and when he reappears in 1891 married to Amelia b New Zealand

When Amelia dies, there is mention of her brother in law rev George Russell Bullock-Webster and her sisters in law Evelyn and Helen Bullock-Webster, and they are all children of Julia and Thomas.

Can anyone find him before he left for New Zealand, or find any indication of his probable name change to Arthur Ansell Berkeley-Webber??
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Old 21-06-20, 01:14
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Lots of references in the English newspapers to George Bullock-Webster, who was Canon of Ely Cathedral.

Obit here, mentioning his mother and sisters:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/...ullock-webster
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Old 21-06-20, 01:20
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George was at Cambridge university, as the obit says, under the surname of Bullock-Webster:

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...39f0cc70cab588
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Old 21-06-20, 01:55
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Thanks Mary,
I suspect that Ansell/Arthur may have left the UK under a bit of a cloud and hence the name change. When he died he left a pittance, whereas Amelia left an endowment for the clergy of Christchurch New Zealand, hence my trying to confirm a relationship with the more famous George!
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I see from the censuses that George and his sisters were with Julia in 1861 (all with surname Webster and middle initial B), but no sign of Ansell.

I also see from a quick search of PapersPast that George (and presumably Ansell)'s father was Captain Thomas Bullock-Webster of the Bombay Native Infantry, and that Ansell was the cousin of Mr H Bullock-Webster of Auckland. Do you know anything about him?
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Old 21-06-20, 02:07
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Yes, it's odd that she left so much money, quite a bit of it to George.
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Old 21-06-20, 02:11
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Ansell's cousin Harry arrived in NZ in the 1870s, after living in Canada:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/ne...r&snippet=true
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And Amelia's estate included property in Canada.
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Old 21-06-20, 02:59
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I'm guessing you've already seen this, as it mentions the marriage at the British embassy in Paris, but it's annoying that it doesn't mention Ansell:

https://books.google.it/books?id=VMm...ter%22&f=false
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At least two of Julia's sons settled in Canada, and I see that Amelia and Ansell also visited Canada in 1913/14.

Julia's diaries might be interesting:

https://search-bcarchives.royalbcmus....ca/diaries-29
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