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The 1979 death is on the National Probate Calendar: ATHERTON Jane of Norley Hall Hostel Pemberton Wigan died 23 August 1979 Probate Liverpool 9 November £4038.
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1871 Census

North Row Orrell, Lancashire

James Leicester head m 54 fireman at a colliery b Lancs St Helens
Mary Leicester wife m 52 domestic b Lancs Pemberton
Rachel Leicester dau unm 18 rover at a cotton mill b ditto
Jane Leicester dau 12 scholar b Lancs Orrell

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James Moss head m 27 labourer at a colliery b Pemberton
Margaret Moss wife m 20 ditto b Pemberton
William Moss son 2mths b Orrell
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Oh, I just realised - censuses are free to view on FMP till the 8th of Feb (but not the 1939 Register), so we should post links to FMP for Qwackers to look at. I'll make a start.
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Have to go out now but I have traced a couple of those people who died in the 1970s in 1939, so may be able to eliminate that way. Will post again when I get back!
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Qwackers, here are links to the census records on Findmypast, which are free to view until the 8th Feb. You will need to log into Findmypast to view them, and if you don't have an account on there already you will need to register, but you won't need to pay.

James and Jane Moss in 1911:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...ntTypeKey=1382

James with his parents in 1891:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...hlights=%22%22

and James with his parents in 1901:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...hlights=%22%22

The Leicester and Moss families in 1881:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...hlights=%22%22

and the Leicester and Moss families in 1871:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...hlights=%22%22
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I don't think that was my Grandma as she died at home
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Quote:
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This could be the remarriage for your grandmother:

Marriages Dec 1943
Atherton Thomas Moss Ince 8c 165
Moss Jane Atherton Ince 8c 165

In which case she should be widow Jane Moss on the 1939 register.

Unfortunately, I've not been able to positively identify her as yet in 1939.
She should be indexed as Jane Atherton (Moss) on the 1939 Register, but I can't find any likely entries.
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Also, as Merry said earlier, we could do with the information about Jane and her father from her marriage certificate (the one where she married James Moss), please.
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These are the deaths from post #40:

Deaths Jun 1972
ATHERTON Jane 19Oc1888 Ince 10c 1051

Deaths Mar 1978
ATHERTON JANE 13OC1888 WIGAN 39 2811

Deaths Sep 1979
ATHERTON JANE 15MR1889 WIGAN 39 2189

Qwackers said the third one probably wasn't the correct death as the probate entry said she was of Norley Hall Hostel Pemberton Wigan, which is not the correct address.

Not only that, but I found this Jane Atherton in 1939 with the same date of birth and she is single:

24 Arthur Street , Wigan C.B., Lancashire
Jane Atherton 15 Mar 1889 Female Cotton Weaver Single


The Jane who died in 1972 seems to be Jane Atherton, late Banks, formerly Riley. Her Atherton husband was Alfred, so apparently also not the right death.

So, that potentially leaves the Jane b 13 Oct 1888 and died Q1 1978 aged 89. As expected I couldn't find anyone to fit this date and forename on the 1939 register!

Looking at the birth registrations, this birth reg MIGHT be the right one:

WHALLEY, JANE mmn HEYES
GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 156

Esther Heyes married George Whalley in 1887 in Wigan district. I remember when I looked at the censuses earlier on I thought the Jane who was the child of George and Esther looked like the most likely person to be James Moss's wife. What was Jane's father's name on the 1908 marriage cert?
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