William Richardson FMMMFF - Genealogists' Forum

ElizabethHerts · #1 03-02-12, 07:42

The only details I have about William Richardson come from his son Charles Richardson's death certificate which state his name and occpation and his wife's name.

Link to his son Charles Richardson:http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...les+Richardson

Name - "official" name and what they were known as
William Richardson

Date and place of birth
c. 1788 Aberlour Banffshire Scotland

Names of parents
Unknown

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
Unknown

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
To Ann McDonald
Date and place unknown

Occupation(s) - if any
Farm servant

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK)
Aberlour, Banffshire

Date, place and cause of death
unknown

Date and place of burial
unknown

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
unknown - unlikely

Memorial inscription - if any
unknown

kiterunner · #2 03-02-12, 18:01

How do you know he was born in Aberlour, Elizabeth?

ElizabethHerts · #3 03-02-12, 18:09

Good question, Kate!

Probably because on my Scottish side I have relied on other peoples' research a lot more than with my English family. *blushes*

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-...berg&id=I37400

Of course, his place of birth needs verifying with hard facts.

kiterunner · #4 03-02-12, 18:14

I can't find anything about William, Ann, or Charles's marriage to Jane / Jean anywhere except in people's trees! Do you have an exact date for Charles and Jane's marriage? It says 1835 Glass on people's trees but it isn't on Scotland's People as far as I can see.

kiterunner · #5 03-02-12, 18:27

Did Charles ever name a son William? I can't see mention of one in your thread about Charles.

ElizabethHerts · #6 03-02-12, 18:40

Kate, this is the information from Charles Richardson's death certificate:

1877 10th October 8 pm at Lintmill Seafield Rathven Banffshire Charles Richardson, retired farmer, 63 years, died. Erysipelas* 14 days. Death notified by Ann Richardson, daughter, present.
Parents:
William Richardson Farm Servant (deceased)
Ann Richardson M.S. McDonald (deceased)

Initially I found Scottish research very difficult. All I knew was my grandmother's maiden name. She was born in Dumfries, and my mother had been looking round there for information. However, it transpired that her parents came from much further north.

To return to your question, there were no children called William.
I have descendants for most of the siblings, and a few emigrated.

Perhaps Charles was lying about his parentage?
I think some GR members took pity on me, and I found more information about the families. However, the earlier information is very sketchy, and for want of anything better I have been using it.

I have had contact with a few people but the real stumbling block is the absence of marriages. Someone told me that Scottish marriages could be very casual with not much ceremony or official proof. I don't know if that is correct.

kiterunner · #7 03-02-12, 18:55

There is a possible for William on the 1841 and 1851 censuses according to ancestry, at Waulkmill, Mortlach, Banffshire.

In 1841 he is 50 born county, gardener, and in 1851 he is age 64, ag lab, born Boharm Banffshire. He has a wife Isabella who is 55 in 1841 and in 1851 she is 67 born Inveravon Banffshire. Her surname is transcribed as Sternat on the 1841 so probably should be Stewart? They have a daughter Janet or Jannet with them and in 1851 she is 39 born Aberlour, so she could be Charles's sister. There is another daughter Elisabeth Murray who is 3 years younger than Janet, also born Aberlour. I'm not sure where Elisabeth is in 1841.

Not found a birth for Janet yet.

In 1861 Isabella is a widow but I can't see a death for William so I guess he died before civil registration came in in 1855. There is a death for Isabella Richardson, other surname Stewart, in Banffshire between 1861 and 1871, age between 78 and 88.

Guess what? I can't find a William Richardson / Isabella Stewart marriage. Not really surprising! I was hoping to find a date so we could see if Isabella was a second wife or not. Her death registration should give the names of all her husbands though.

Also if we can find Janet's death registration it should have her parents' names, as accurately as the informant's knowledge allowed. She is a servant in 1861. Of course we don't know for sure whether she is Charles's sister yet. Oh, and / or Elisabeth's death reg but she could be Charles's stepsister if Isabella wasn't his mother.

kiterunner · #8 03-02-12, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElizabethHerts

Someone told me that Scottish marriages could be very casual with not much ceremony or official proof. I don't know if that is correct.

Absolutely correct as far as I know, but it was me who told you that!

kiterunner · #9 03-02-12, 19:02

Okay, FamilySearch has a birth for James Murray (grandson who is with William and Isabella in 1841 and 1851) - born 16 Nov 1836 at Mortlach Banffshire, parents Alexander Murray and Elizabeth Richardson. They also had a son William born 25 Aug 1839 but I can't see their marriage.

ElizabethHerts · #10 03-02-12, 19:46

Kate, after a busy week I fell asleep on the settee! I shall read what you have discovered in detail now and get back to you asap - WHEN I FIND MY GLASSES! Lol!