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19-02-10, 16:10
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If I can locate my copy of Ancestral whatsits by Mark Whosit, I'll look it up.
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Love from Nell researching Chowns in Buckinghamshire & Oxfordshire Brewer, Broad, Eplett & Pope in Cornwall Smoothy & Willsher/Wiltshire in Essex & Surrey Emms, Mealing + variants, Purvey & Williams in Gloucestershire Barnes, Dunt, Gray, Massingham, Saul/Seals/Sales in Norfolk Matthews & Nash in Warwickshire 
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20-02-10, 23:01
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I'm so glad you said that Nell!
I had completely forgotten till then that I too had a book called Ancestral whatsits, although mine was by Whosit Whosit! Son gave it to me 2 or 3 years ago and I have just found it lurking on the bottom shelf of the spare room bookcase. Ancestral Trails by Mark Heber? There's a fair bit about the Poor Laws in there. I was amazed to read that there were still an estimated 15,000 a year being removed in the early 20th century!
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#13
21-02-10, 10:22
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*Decides to give up family history and take up painting by numbers*
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21-02-10, 10:31
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That's the one Gillian! I don't know where my copy is at the moment.
OC - you're busy stalking/brooding sorry, looking at the Holden thread carefully! No time for painting by numbers.
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Love from Nell researching Chowns in Buckinghamshire & Oxfordshire Brewer, Broad, Eplett & Pope in Cornwall Smoothy & Willsher/Wiltshire in Essex & Surrey Emms, Mealing + variants, Purvey & Williams in Gloucestershire Barnes, Dunt, Gray, Massingham, Saul/Seals/Sales in Norfolk Matthews & Nash in Warwickshire
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21-02-10, 11:02
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lol OC - I swear I wasn't trying to rub salt in the wound! I was just so surprised that removal had still been going on so recently.
But - some good news - Reeves does a Senior Painting by numbers! Would you like the link? Although, to be honest, I feel the pbn on black velvet would be more your style - a little classier and more sophisticated. Plus, they are now apparently collectors' items, so your completed efforts would go very nicely with your day job! Nell - I'm amazed I found mine - I am the Queen of Chaotic Storage!
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21-02-10, 11:45
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It's not that I mind being wrong, I always think it is more important to know the facts.
What bothers me is that I have been confidently disseminating incorrect information for years and I cannot now remember WHERE the information came from, to lodge itself so firmly in my brain. I've looked at my usual reference books and none of them make any mention of Removal Orders after 1836 at all, either way. However (she says bravely, gathering tattered shreds of credibility around her comfortingly) this does explain something I always thought was just the people not having caught up with the law, namely, the very common practice of making your birthplace the same as your residence on the census (and thus confusing us researchers). It really WAS because they thought they could be sent back to their parish of birth, so decided to make it difficult for the busybody spies to find out where they came from. I do wonder though, how on earth they managed to carry out these Removal Orders in the large cities - places like Manchester for instance, where the population had come from everywhere. Or London - what a nightmare. OC *Admires the black velvet canvas, licks paintbrush, knocks water over....*
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21-02-10, 15:28
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I'm curious too about the mechanics of the removals from major cities.
One of the things I came across was that the parish to which a person/family was being removed would refuse to accept them and send them back. I hope they were at least fed and given a bed at one institution or the other in the meantime.
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