Alexander [Alec] Horace Mack

[GARDINER1]

I want find my Grandfather's family. Please help!

Name – Alexander Horace Mack [Alec] 25th Oct 1901, place ?
Father, William Henry Mack, maybe died 1912 China Sea with wife? Sea captain? Maybe has a brother, who moved to Canada?
Ancestors: maybe from Austria and related to General Mack [could be rubbish].
He was apparently orphaned when he was about 10 and lived with various members of his family maybe with brother.
No Addresses as a child, so not found 1901 or 1911 census. Probably lived as a child in the South of England by the sea.
Married 6 March 1925 • St Peter's, Hammersmith, London,: Lilian Maud Wood (1904–2000) my grandmother birth 30 NOV 1904 • Merthyr Tydfil
Occupation(s) – Estate Agent Auctioneer
Military service – no military service, but air warden in London and Bournemouth


Thanks!
Carol

[kiterunner]

Welcome to the forum, Carol.

You probably know this already, but the GRO marriage index has his name down as Horace A Mack, so I assume his name is Horace Alexander on the marriage cert rather than Alexander Horace?

Also, he wouldn't be on the 1901 census if his date of birth is correct as the census would have been taken before he was born.

Oh, and do you have the names of the witnesses from his marriage certificate, please?

[Merry]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Oh, and do you have the names of the witnesses from his marriage certificate, please?

Also, what address did Alec give on the marriage cert and what information did he give for his father, other than his name?

[kiterunner]

We need to rule these out in case his surname was not originally Mack (Dec 1901 birth regs):
Edwards Horace Alexander Wandsworth 1d 713
Fitzgerald Horace Alexander Walsall 6b 684
HARDWICK Horace Alec Bedford 3b 308
HURT Horace Alexander Southwell 7b 461

[kiterunner]

I've found deaths for Horace Alexander Edwards and Horace Alexander Fitzgerald, so we can rule those two out. And a likely one for Hurt though it doesn't quite match.

[Merry]

1939 register:

179 Long Lane , Uxbridge U.D., Middlesex, England

Lilian Maude Mack married dob 30 Nov 1904 occ Unpaid Domestic Duties
Alexander Donald Mack married dob 25 Oct 1901 occ Builders General Foreman

Lilian's dob has been altered from 30 Nov 1908. I cannot see Alec's entry even though it has been transcribed as the image shows it to be redacted, so I don't know if 'Donald' is just a mis-transcription. The transcription suggests there are no other people in their household, but this may not be correct.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Merry

1939 register:

179 Long Lane , Uxbridge U.D., Middlesex, England

Lilian Maude Mack married dob 30 Nov 1904 occ Unpaid Domestic Duties
Alexander Donald Mack married dob 25 Oct 1901 occ Builders General Foreman

Lilian's dob has been altered from 30 Nov 1908. I cannot see Alec's entry even though it has been transcribed as the image shows it to be redacted, so I don't know if 'Donald' is just a mis-transcription. The transcription suggests there are no other people in their household, but this may not be correct.

I've just looked at the 1939 register image again and this time I can see Alec's original entry but not Lilian's so goodness knows what fmp are up to! Anyway, his entry does have middle name Horace which has been mis-transcribed as Donald. It now looks as if there may be two redacted entries (ie people born after 1915) in Alec and Lilian's household, though fmp have not acknowledged this in their transcription. His entry also states he was an air raid warden.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

I've found deaths for Horace Alexander Edwards and Horace Alexander Fitzgerald, so we can rule those two out. And a likely one for Hurt though it doesn't quite match.

The fourth man, Horace A Hardwick, appears on the 1939 register, so that rules him out. I didn't look for the other three.

[Merry]

Lilian Maud Wood (1904–2000) my grandmother birth 30 NOV 1904 • Merthyr Tydfil

Are you sure she was born in Merthyr? I don't see a birth registration there.

I was also surprised, given they seem to live in the outer London area between their marriage and WW2 (electoral rolls on Ancestry), I can't see any birth registrations for children for this couple in that area.

EDIT See posts #10 and #13

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by Merry

Are you sure she was born in Merthyr? I don't see a birth registration there.

I was also surprised, given they seem to live in the outer London area between their marriage and WW2 (electoral rolls on Ancestry), I can't see any birth registrations for children for this couple in that area.

Were you looking for MMN Wood, rather than Woods, Merry? I believe it should be Woods. For the children's births, I mean.

Also the public tree on ancestry links to Lilian Maud Woods' birth registered Jan-Mar 1905 Merthyr.