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Old 12-12-09, 23:02
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Just a thought

They were probably with my great uncle Alfred George (known as George) Newey.

He was a vocalist/ entertainer and cannot be found on any census since he left his parents home in 1891. I have found his wife in 1911 but not him.


I think these sort of people were a law unto themselves
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Just a thought

They were probably with my great uncle Alfred George (known as George) Newey.

He was a vocalist/ entertainer and cannot be found on any census since he left his parents home in 1891. I have found his wife in 1911 but not him.


I think these sort of people were a law unto themselves
I now have a mental picture of them all singing raucous songs around an open fire in a woodland clearing with their caravans pitched in a circle while the census enumerator knocks in vain at their empty homes
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Old 13-12-09, 08:38
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Can we have a recap what we are still looking for?

Margaret (whatever her surname is, I'm really confused) in any census prior to 1911

Joseph TP Lynch on a census prior to 1911

Margaret and Joseph's birth reg?

So, who is Grace Green/Compton/Lynch?
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I've found Grace on all available census but I have a feeling we don't need to. She is a widow in 1901 too. She was working at the Middlesex Lunatic Asylum in 1891 and 1901 too.
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Omg Marg have woke up loads in the night trying to work it all out lol
Ok I can answer about Grace Compton
She was Nee Green and married William Compton in 1892 - William Compton was a musician so I was trying to find him - I havent managed at all -
Grace Compton goes on to Marry Joseph TP Lynch in 1912 and we have now ordered cert.
I will let Rick answer the rest as I will confuse you even more
Thank you so much for all your continued help :-))
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Can we have a recap what we are still looking for?

Margaret (whatever her surname is, I'm really confused) in any census prior to 1911

Joseph TP Lynch on a census prior to 1911

Margaret and Joseph's birth reg?

So, who is Grace Green/Compton/Lynch?
Just to recap (sorry it is so confusing):

We are looking for Margaret Lynch, my great grandmother. We only have her on one census - 1911 in Fulham when she was aged 39 and born Bradford. She married George Arthur Boyle in 1903 in Horsham and had an illegitimate son Alfred Leonard Leon in 1899 in Sittingbourne. Alf's birth was never registered and he and his mother are not to be found on the 1901 census.

Alf Leon's father appears to have been Alfred Herbert Leon, a bigamist and serial adulterer. Alfred senior married Edith Fanny Glasier and then Emily Elizabeth Elisha. He also seems to have had a child Annie Selina Leon who married an unknown Thorn - she married as a widow in 1902 to Arthur Cooper in Paddington. No other trace of her.

Margaret Lynch said her father was Joseph Thomas Patrick Lynch, a publican, deceased in 1903. Someone of that name married Margaret Swallow (nee Ralph) in 1900 and is with her in 1901 in Westminster. There's also a marriage to Grace Compton (nee Green) in 1912 of Joseph T P Lynch in Fulham and he appears to be the one in 1911 born Bradford, living in Croydon with Grace's brother. Not sure if he is the same one on the 1901 as the age and place of birth are different. I'm hoping that at least the 1911 one is my great grandmother's brother.

Thanks for all of your efforts,

Rick.
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Old 13-12-09, 13:57
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Just to recap (sorry it is so confusing):

We are looking for Margaret Lynch, my great grandmother. We only have her on one census - 1911 in Fulham when she was aged 39 and born Bradford. She married George Arthur Boyle in 1903 in Horsham and had an illegitimate son Alfred Leonard Leon in 1899 in Sittingbourne. Alf's birth was never registered and he and his mother are not to be found on the 1901 census.

Alf Leon's father appears to have been Alfred Herbert Leon, a bigamist and serial adulterer. Alfred senior married Edith Fanny Glasier and then Emily Elizabeth Elisha. He also seems to have had a child Annie Selina Leon who married an unknown Thorn - she married as a widow in 1902 to Arthur Cooper in Paddington. No other trace of her.

Margaret Lynch said her father was Joseph Thomas Patrick Lynch, a publican, deceased in 1903. Someone of that name married Margaret Swallow (nee Ralph) in 1900 and is with her in 1901 in Westminster. There's also a marriage to Grace Compton (nee Green) in 1912 of Joseph T P Lynch in Fulham and he appears to be the one in 1911 born Bradford, living in Croydon with Grace's brother. Not sure if he is the same one on the 1901 as the age and place of birth are different. I'm hoping that at least the 1911 one is my great grandmother's brother.

Thanks for all of your efforts,

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What is the census ref for that one in 1901? I can't find it.
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Is this the one you mean?

RG13; Piece: 95; Folio: 107; Page: 20
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Is this the one you mean?

RG13; Piece: 95; Folio: 107; Page: 20
Yes Marg - that's the one. I have their marriage cert from 1900. is age and place of birth do not match the on from 1911 but his name is Joseph Thomas Patrick Lynch and there's that artistic link again.
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I can see why it's doing your head in, it's driving me mad too.

What's his fathers name on that marriage cert?
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