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10-11-12, 21:23
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James Holden and Mary Robishaw
FURTHER UPDATE POST #33 14 June 2015
UPDATE POST#28 23rd April 2015 Thanks to Merry, I'm having another go at finding the first marriage of my James Holden 1825-1898. I have made a list of every marriage between 1839-1859 (when he married for the second time, a widower) and have eliminated quite a few, but this one has me quite excited, except I can't see where to go with it! 1 April 1845 Prestwich St Mary, Lancashire James Holden (X) full, bachelor, ENGINEER, of Oldham to Mary Robishaw (X) full, spinster of Oldham GF: James Holden, a carter BF: not given wits: Mally Armstrong and James Sheldrick. I like this one very much because my James was a factory engineer and his father (actually, his grandfather, but that's another story) was James Holden, a farmer - not incompatible with being a carter. My James would not have been of full age in 1845 but not far short. It wouldn't have been the last lie he told! I can only see one child for this marriage on Lancsbmd, John, born 1853 in Oldham mmn Robishaw. That John possibly died in 1856 aged 4. I cannot identify a death for a Mary Holden. I cannot identify a baptism for Mary Robishaw as there are quite a few. Can anyone suggest another research path? Or...can anyone see a likely looking James and Mary Holden in 1851 in or around Oldham? Thanks in advance. OC Last edited by Olde Crone; 14-06-15 at 20:16. 
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10-11-12, 21:36
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This looks like that couple (but not yours if b Yorkshire!):
1851 Dogs Ford Road, Royton, Oldham HOLDEN, James Head Married 27 Engineer Cotton Mill b Yorkshire HOLDEN, Mary Wife Married 28 Reeler Cotton b Oldham, Lancashire
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10-11-12, 21:38
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When did your James say he was a factory engineer? (was it him who was supposed to be a train driver until it was realised he looked after the engines in a factory, or was that somone else?!!)
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10-11-12, 21:43
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hang on though.....On the next census the same couple have three children b Oldham, so what mmn was recorded for them?
Benjamin 9 George 5 Elizabeth 4 months ...................
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10-11-12, 21:45
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There are possibles for Benjamin and George with MMN Robinson. Not found Elizabeth yet, though.
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10-11-12, 21:47
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Robinson for Benjamin and George (which I suppose is a mistake?!!) but I can't see a reg for Elizabeth.
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10-11-12, 21:53
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Oh, RRRRRRRRATS!
If they are together in 1861, then he's not mine because mine was married to Ellen Grimshaw in 1859 and with her in 61. (Yes, he's the one who drove the Flying Scotsman till we realised he was a stationary engine driver in a factory, haha). Thankyou for trying though. Back to the drawing board. Only another 87 to go. OC
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10-11-12, 22:10
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I can't find him though, Merry. Ruth Patefield is back in prime position at the moment.
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