Robert Knowles and Mary Buckley Newton

[ElizabethHerts]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

Since they are in Butterworth in 1861, Robert's death could be the one listed on Lancashire BMD 1868 in Butterworth Lordship sub-district, age 69. It is Rochdale district on FreeBMD, Jan-Mar quarter 1868, vol 8e, p 3.

Thanks, Kate.

It's odd how the census searches didn't show up on FMP, nor easily on Ancestry.

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by ElizabethHerts

Thanks, Kate.

It's odd how the census searches didn't show up on FMP, nor easily on Ancestry.

I don't know. If I search the 1861 census on ancestry with name Robert Knowles, born 1799 (from age on 1851 census) at Wainfleet All Saints, Lincolnshire, England (because I had to select from the dropdown list and there wasn't one for just Wainfleet, Lincolnshire), lived in Lancashire, England, spouse Mary, with "Match all terms exactly" left unticked, the correct entry comes top of the list.

[kiterunner]

Mary has taken over the business in 1871, still in Butterworth:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/76...cklabel=Return

[kiterunner]

And Lancs BMD has a Mary Knowles death in 1874, Butterworth Freehold sub-district, age 73, which is Jan-Mar 1874 Rochdale district on FreeBMD.

[kiterunner]

This looks interesting if it is the same family:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...9-e47c7cac15d4

Was there a Robert jr and an Andrew?

[ElizabethHerts]

So it looks as if she was buried at Shaw:

First name(s) MARY
Last name KNOWLES
Birth year 1800
Death year 1874
Age 74
Burial year 1874
Burial day 10
Burial month 3
Place SHAW
Church description HOLY TRINITY
Church denomination ANGLICAN
County Lancashire
Country England
Record set National Burial Index for England & Wales

[ElizabethHerts]

Originally Posted by kiterunner

This looks interesting if it is the same family:

http://discovery.nationalarchives.go...9-e47c7cac15d4

Was there a Robert jr and an Andrew?

Very interesting, Kate.

The first child I have is Catherine in 1824, and as Robert and Mary married in 1820 I wonder if there are earlier children.

[kiterunner]

Oh, if Mary is the one buried at Shaw, then she is the one in the National Probate Calendar. I hadn't looked Milnrow up when I saw it before but now I see it was in Butterworth.
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/19...nSearchResults

Edit - I see you mentioned John Holgate in your original post, but I had forgotten about him!

[ElizabethHerts]

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/v...18680204%2f021

Robert died in church.


http://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/v...18680208%2f049
first column

Oooh, thanks for the probate.
Mary Buckley Knowles is the sister (quite a bit younger) of OH's 3x-great-grandfather, Joseph Newton.

[ElizabethHerts]

Catherine Knowles married Jonathan Mallelieu Clifton in 1849 in the Rochdale district.

Here they are in 1851. Catherine's brother Joseph is living with them:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/recor...1%2f0014154023