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Old 08-06-11, 10:11
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Default James Kirk from New Zealand where was he born? etc

How am I going to find this out? My great Aunt married a New Zealander, James Kirk (Not of star ship enterprise fame) I only found this out yesterday! I'm told he was born in NZ and after the war returned to NZ without his wife (the trauma of war had changed him so much, the marriage didn't work!)
He was born probably pre 1910,
Married 1940 in Wiltshire - to Phyllis Swiney
assume he died in NZ

I would just love to know a little more on him. I know I should get the marriage cert, perhaps I will when there is a little more money.

Any ideas what I can do/where I can look at low/no cost
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Old 08-06-11, 10:38
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Do you have his marriage cert?

I can't remember what is on an English cert, but his father's name should be.

Might find something here, but it's not an uncommon name.

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Home/
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Strangely there aren't that many, so the marriage cert might help if there is a middle name.
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He hasn't got a middle initial on the GRO marriage index, so I would say you will need the marriage cert, sorry. There are a couple of possible James Kirks on ship passenger lists to Australia on findmypast - one in 1948 age 41 and one in 1955 age 47 - or they could well both be the same person.

Ancestry has two James Kirks without middle names on the New Zealand Army WW2 Nominal Rolls but I'll PM you the info as whichever one isn't him could still be alive.

Update - I've found likely matches for them on the 1946 NZ e roll and the second of the two I sent you has a wife with him not called Phyllis, so probably not that one. The first of the two is on his own in 1946.
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He hasn't got a middle initial on the GRO marriage index, so I would say you will need the marriage cert, sorry. There are a couple of possible James Kirks on ship passenger lists to Australia on findmypast - one in 1948 age 41 and one in 1955 age 47 - or they could well both be the same person.

Ancestry has two James Kirks without middle names on the New Zealand Army WW2 Nominal Rolls but I'll PM you the info as whichever one isn't him could still be alive.

Update - I've found likely matches for them on the 1946 NZ e roll and the second of the two I sent you has a wife with him not called Phyllis, so probably not that one. The first of the two is on his own in 1946.
I hadn't really thought he could possibly still be alive!

Thank you for that info, the first one is him. That was the only other thing I knew was that he had lived in Darnley Road. The same address as Wihelmina Corralie Adrienne Versigny. (remember her??) Totally a different family, that means there were 3 families in that house that married!

I do think for any more I will need to get the marriage cert!

Thanks so much for to you both looking
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Sue, I don't think he is still alive, it's the other James Kirk who could be.
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So now we know which one he is, this is the info from the WW2 nominal roll(1940) , in case anyone else comes up with some ideas to find his birth and / or death:
No 30071 , a Private in the 22 Wn, single, enlisted at Napier, occupation farm labourer, last address Pacific Hotel, Hastings, next of kin sister in London Miss M Walling, 29 Darnley Rd., Mare St., Hackney, London, England
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I'm sure we should be able to figure out something from the fact that his sister was Miss M Walling, but I haven't found anything on the NZ BMD's so far.
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I'm sure we should be able to figure out something from the fact that his sister was Miss M Walling, but I haven't found anything on the NZ BMD's so far.
I've been wondering about that, why do they have different surnames when she is a Miss?? but then why was his wife's surname Swiney and her sister's Molloy, Different fathers!!!!! What a totally mixed up house!
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There's a file on him at the NZ Archives but I think you have to go there to view it. It is definitely him because of the service number:
Former Servicemen's Rehabilitation Files:
Kirk, James 1946-1947
http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/...?code=14884891
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