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Old 17-10-11, 18:07
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Default George Broomfield, Murderer

In December 1864, George Broomfield, a butler, shot the young woman he was infatuated with in Shirley, Hampshire and then tried to kill himself. He failed.

In 1871 he is in Broadmoor: Piece:1296 Folio:77 Page:15 Registration District:Easthampstead

George Broomfield 52 Butler b Guildford Surrey (so born 1819)

There is mention of a wife, Ann, so I assume this is them in 1861:

RG 9 P 40 F 65 P 2

gEORGE bROOMFIELD 38 Waiter b Wonersh (so born 1823)
Ann 44 b Hampshire ? South Warnborough?

I think this is him in 1841:
HO 107 1045 F7/28 P 18
yIELDS hOUSE, Wonersh George Broomfield aged 12 (so born 1829!)

There is a baptism in Wonersh 7 March 1824 son of James & Amelia (nee Hedger)

James and Amelia are my ancestors.


In 1851 there is a George Broomfield Millar aged 31 b Guildford HO 1549 F 172 P 13

Is this the same man? Are there any other candidates for George?

I think George married Ann Simpson Jun 1850. Is this marriage on Ancestry?

Finally, can anyone find George after 1871?
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I found a George F Broomfield aged 72 in 1881 with a daughter Ann aged 39, I'm a bit slow with the checking on him (going back) so this may just be a wild stab at it - Reference I have is RG11/1204 - Parish Eling, Hampshire
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Oh dear, I spent quite a while trying to find out why he would be called George Broomfield Millar in 1851 and now I see that's his occupation. Probably him then.
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I take it you "googled" your title, covers newspaper articles, his transfer and his wife's request for release which appears to have been approved but declared "confidential" - what I found so far..
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I found a George F Broomfield aged 72 in 1881 with a daughter Ann aged 39, I'm a bit slow with the checking on him (going back) so this may just be a wild stab at it - Reference I have is RG11/1204 - Parish Eling, Hampshire
Sorry, that isn't him, because that Eling one is on the 1871 and 1861 censuses as well.
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I think George married Ann Simpson Jun 1850. Is this marriage on Ancestry?
Not as far as I can see.
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There's a George Elderfield age 65 in Broadmoor in 1881, born Surrey Guildford. Condition of marriage not known. But his occupation is labourer. Also a Geo Bloomfield widower age 55 birthplace not known, but his occupation is stone mason. (Plus my 4xg-uncle William Bowskill). Can't see your George though.
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There is a marriage between George Broomfield and Ann Simpson on Ancestry on 21st February 1859 (the date is very clear) at St Marylebone parish church. Both full age, bachelor / spinster. His occupation butler. Fathers are Jas. Broomfield and Henry Simpson both labourers. Witnesses William and Dinah Clark
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There is a marriage between George Broomfield and Ann Simpson on Ancestry on 21st February 1859 (the date is very clear) at St Marylebone parish church. Both full age, bachelor / spinster. His occupation butler. Fathers are Jas. Broomfield and Henry Simpson both labourers. Witnesses William and Dinah Clark
Thank you, Jackie! Both entries have (understandably) been mistranscribed on Freebmd, but unfortunately differently.

For reference, it should be: Marylebone 1a 685

I wonder if the earlier marriage (possibly registry office) was a coincidence? It seems odd that a George Broomfield and an Ann Simpson should have chosen to marry at an earlier date.

At least I now know for certain that I have a murderer in the family!
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Thank you, Jackie! Both entries have (understandably) been mistranscribed on Freebmd, but unfortunately differently.

For reference, it should be: Marylebone 1a 685

I wonder if the earlier marriage (possibly registry office) was a coincidence? It seems odd that a George Broomfield and an Ann Simpson should have chosen to marry at an earlier date.

At least I now know for certain that I have a murderer in the family!
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