when and how did joseph wilson die? - Genealogists' Forum

zoenel · #1 13-07-11, 15:40

hi evryone,i have another undiogosed problem in myfamily history with my great grandfather joseph wilson we know very little about him apart from he married clara elizabeth webster who was from worksop in 1907 in sheffield and lived and settled in worksop.he lived at 114 lincoln street at one point. he hadd 4 children clarice.edward ,doris, betty.he worked as rodeman in mines in 1920.and the rumour was he died in his early 40s.he wass also abear nuckle fighter.cant find himany cencus yet and his fathe was ajoseph wilson.thanks

zoenel · #2 13-07-11, 15:41

clara was born 1887.worksop,notts.

kiterunner · #3 13-07-11, 15:59

I think Joseph is listed as "Jas" on the 1911 census website, in Rotherham district:
Jas Wilson 30
Clara Wilson 24 born Worksop
Edward Wilson 1
Clara Stanniland 41
Clara Stanniland 5

Neither "Jas" nor Clara Stanniland is head of household, according to the index search, so I can't find them on ancestry yet.

kiterunner · #4 13-07-11, 16:02

There is a Doris Webster age 5 in the household too... will post full transcript when I have found it.

ElizabethHerts · #5 13-07-11, 16:03

This could be them in 1911.

STANNILAND, Reu Head Married M 46 1865 Coal Miner Hewer Worksop Notts
STANNILAND, Clara Wife Married 22 years F 41 1870 Worksop Notts VIEW
STANNILAND, William Son Single M 21 1890 Coal Minr Filler Worksop Notts VIEW
STANNILAND, John Son Single M 16 1895 Pony Driver Coal Miner Worksop Notts VIEW
STANNILAND, Reu Son Single M 13 1898 School Worksop Notts VIEW
STANNILAND, Hilda Daughter F 11 1900 School Worksop Notts
STANNILAND, Bernard Son M 9 1902 School Worksop Notts
STANNILAND, Lilly Daughter F 7 1904 School Worksop Notts
STANNILAND, Clara Daughter F 5 1906 School Worksop Notts
STANNILAND, Arthur Son M 3 1908 Worksop Notts
STANNILAND, Beatriece Daughter F 0 (6 MONTHS) 1911 Worksop Notts
WILSON, Jas Relative Married 4 years M 30 1881 Coal Miner Hewer Worksop Notts
WILSON, Clara Relative Married 4 years F 24 1887 Worksop Notts
WEBSTER, Doris Relative Single F 5 1906 School Worksop Notts
WILSON, Edward Relative M 1 1910 Worksop Notts

1911 Census
WILSON, Jas
ROTHERHAM, Yorkshire (West riding)
Reference RG14PN28039 RG78PN1602 RD511 SD1 ED3 SN207

ElizabethHerts · #6 13-07-11, 16:03

You beat me to it, Kiterunner!

Yes, I think that Jas is Jos - or Joseph.

kiterunner · #7 13-07-11, 16:13

Okay, so ignoring the Stannilands just for now (but "Reu" should be "Ben"), this is what it says on the image (address 3 Falconer Lane, Fence, civil parish Aston with Aughton), sorry, not sure of the two children's birthplaces.
Jos Wilson Relative 30 Married 4 years Coal Miner (Hewer) born Worksop
Clara Wilson Relative 24 Married 4 years 2 children born Worksop
Doris Webster Relative 5 School born Worksop (or somewhere beginning with W, it's a scrawl!)
Edward Wilson Relative 1 born - again, somewhere beginning with W but very scrawled

Phoenix · #8 13-07-11, 16:19

Just for the record, Benjamin married a Clara Webster:
Name: STANNILAND, Benjamin
Registration District: Help Worksop
County: Nottinghamshire
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 7B
Page No: Help 53

ElizabethHerts · #9 13-07-11, 16:22

1901 - Clara Elizabeth Webster

1901 Census
WEBSTER, Clara Elizth
WORKSOP, Nottinghamshire
RG13 piece 3124 folio 98 page 15

WEBSTER, John Head Married M 34 1867 Coal Miner (Hewer) Worksop Nottinghamshire
WEBSTER, Elizabeth Wife Married F 38 1863 Leamington Warwickshire
WEBSTER, John Wm Son Single M 17 1884 Carter's Labourer Worksop Nottinghamshire
WEBSTER, Clara Elizth Daughter Single F 14 1887 Worksop Nottinghamshire
WEBSTER, Edward Son Single M 10 1891 Worksop Nottinghamshire
WEBSTER, Charles Luke Son Single M 9 1892 Worksop Nottinghamshire
WEBSTER, Joseph Son Single M 4 1897 Worksop Nottinghamshire

kiterunner · #10 13-07-11, 16:30

There is a Joseph Wilson born 1913 Worksop, mother's maiden name Webster, and a death for Joseph Wilson in 1915 age 1. Could be a child of Joseph and Clara?

The other two children you mentioned were born in 1922 and 1924 - can you please confirm that either they are no longer living or that they have agreed it is o.k. for you to post information about them on here?

Then a possible death for Joseph Wilson - Jan-Mar 1935 Worksop age 56. If his age on the 1911 census is accurate then he was born about 1880 so the age on this would be close. Another possible is Jul-Sep 1936 Worksop age 51 and then there is one Oct-Dec 1942 Worksop age 70 but the ages on those aren't so close. Of course, if he died in another district there are too many possibles!

But none of those is early 40's.