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Old 23-06-23, 14:20
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Default Jack Penry-Jones

Jack was a stalwart of a local society I belong to, but a bit before I joined.

This is his death:

Deaths Jun 1983
PENRY-JONES JACK 1AP1897 BROMLEY 11 1277

and this his birth:

Births Jun 1897
Penry-Jones Jack Lewisham 1d 1135
Jones Jack Lewisham 1d 1135

In 1911, he is aged 14, described as stepson of George Griffiths and his wife Margaret:

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...745%2F0283%2F5


Margaret used her maiden name at marriage; both she and George described themselves as single in 1901.


Jack in 1901 is aged 3, a visitor in the household of Mary Copeman


https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discovery...=successSource


I can't find Jack's birth on the official GRO index. If there is any relational connection between Jack and the Griffiths, I would think it has to be through George, a schoolmaster originating in Caernarvonshire, but I can't see it.


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So Margaret's maiden name is Barker, correct?
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Jack's surname is indexed as Perry-Jones on the GRO site birth index and MMN is Barker.
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*sobs*

I tried Penny-Jones, so why didn't I think of Perry?
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I selected "Phonetically Similar Variations" rather than think of them myself!
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Well done!

If birth certificates come down in price, this is another birth certificate I feel I ought to obtain.

Margaret is in Cambridgeshire in 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901 (where she is described as a retired milliner)

George Griffiths is more mobile, in Sussex in 1891 and Blackheath in 1901.

The most likely scenario is that Margaret comes down to Kent in the mid 1890s. Has an affair with Jack's father. Presumably stays in Kent until she decides to marry George. Returns home to arrange a white wedding. It would be interesting to know whether George was Jack's father. No way of telling, as Jack had no children.
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Did George leave a will? My great-grandfather was referred to as "my natural son" in his mother's husband's will.
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Looking for a will, as Mary suggested.

1921 CENSUS
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...5/02901/0075/0
George Griffiths Head Male 1866 55 Caernarvonshire, Wales Assistant Master In A Secondary School Eltham College Se 9 (Head Master G Roberton Esg Ma)
Margaret Griffiths Wife Female 1869 52 Whittlesford, Cambridgeshire, England Home Duties-
Anthony Brian Griffiths Son Male 1903 18 Lewisham, London, England Training To Be A Secondary School Teacher-Jack Henry Jones Step-son Male 1897 24 Lewisham, London, England Commericial Clerk Port Of London Authority Head Office Leadenhall St Ec
Elizabeth Griffiths Visitor Female 1861 60, Lancashire, England Nurse Attendant On Invalid Mrs Hutt The Old Cottage Hoddesdon Herts
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Old 24-06-23, 09:10
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But

1922 Electoral Roll
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...c&pId=73157309


Same address, 30 Verdant Lane SE6, lists just Margaret and Jack. So had George died? Moved out? Had a stroke?


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Electoral Roll 1934
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...c&pId=74705538


Margaret still there, this time with son, Anthony
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