Marriage Certificate not too helpful

[NickJarvis]

Hello Again

I am back looking at Annie Williams (1892 to 1976). I ordered her marriage certificate and she was married in 1915 to Richard Thomas Hughes in Llangollen, Corwen. She lived in Birkenhead at the time (maybe a servant if the 1911 census is the correct one. Her Dad was Joseph. One of her witnesses was Eliza Kate Williams, and I made a risky assumption that she was Annie's sister. There was also a Joseph Caugh (I don't think Caugh is an actual surname though) who was the second witness. Family members have said she was from the north west, Whitby, Elesmere Port, Salford and Manchester. I do beleive though that Annie's brother and sister lived in Whitby, as my cousin said he would visit as a child.

When searching the 1901 census, I found Annie and Joseph Williams, plus an Elsie Kate Williams. Now I thought I was onto something, but Elsie and Eliza are totally different names.

I find a few Annie's on GRO and I am leaning towards Jones as Annie's mums maiden name, but again I am assuming.

What else can I do? I naively thought that the marriage cert was answer so many questions.

Can anyone help please?

Thanks for any help.
Nick

[Phoenix]

As Annie lived until 1976, do you have her in 1939? That would give her precise date of birth. If it's right (and people do tell porkies from time to time) that would narrow down the possible Annies.

[NickJarvis]

aha - thanks. She was indeed on the 1939 census. I Will take a look. Thanks

[Phoenix]

I think you have probably found the correct census entry, as tthese look like the children on that record:
WILLIAMS, WILLIAM EDWARD JONES
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in WIRRAL Volume 08A Page 446
WILLIAMS, ANN JONES
GRO Reference: 1892 M Quarter in WIRRAL Volume 08A Page 442

WILLIAMS, ELIZA KATE JONES
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in WIRRAL Volume 08A Page 484

[Phoenix]

And this looks like their little brother, who is on the 1911 census:

WILLIAMS, JOHN GRIFFITH JONES
GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in WIRRAL Volume 08A Page 426

[Phoenix]

And this might be Joseph:

Marriages Dec 1916

Hough Joseph Williams W. Derby 8b 742

Williams Eliza K Hough W.Derby 8b 742

[NickJarvis]

I do have her DOB - 10/01/1892

What can I do with this date? Order her BC?

Thanks

[NickJarvis]

ahaha - awesome, it must have been Hough rather than Cough. Thanks

[Merry]

Originally Posted by NickJarvis

I do have her DOB - 10/01/1892

What can I do with this date? Order her BC?

Thanks

So, did she die in 1980 and not in 1976?

Name: Annie Hughes
Death Age: 88
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1892
Registration Date: Jul 1980
[Aug 1980]
[Sep 1980]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Wrexham
Inferred County: Clwyd
Volume: 24
Page: 1031

[NickJarvis]

Hmmmm.....Thanks Merry. I hadn't even picked up on that. I will take another look. Thanks v much