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Old 19-11-20, 14:09
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Samuel Carter married Tamar Williamson at Hugglescote, Leicestershire, 3rd November 1799. There is a Samuel Carter baptised at Carlton (7 miles away) on 13th November 1774, which in the absence of any other likely baptisms, I'm reasonable sure is him.

Ancestry, FMP and FamilySearch between them only yield one baptism of a Tamar Williamson of about the right age, and that's in Yorkshire - so it seems unlikely that she's the one who married in Leicestershire. However, there is another possibility: a Williamson, apparently with no forename, baptised at Ratcliffe Culey (another 7 miles from Carlton, in the opposite direction to Hugglescote), on 3rd December 1775.

The reason the forename is not included in the transcription becomes obvious when one views the original image: the corner of the page has been torn off, removing all the children's forenames and some of the parents' names from baptism records in 1774 and 1775. FMP transcribes the mother's forename as "Hanne", but it could plausibly be the last few letters of "Catharine", and since there are baptisms of other children of John and Catharine Williamson in Ratcliffe Culey around the same time (Ann 1778, Elizabeth 1785) and no sign of any other children of Hanne Williamson, it seems reasonable to assume that the one with the name missing is another child of John and Catharine.

It's clearly a bit more of a stretch to assume that this "must" be Tamar solely because the record is for a Williamson of about the right age in the right area - since the remaining part of the page does not include either the word "son" or "daughter", I can't even be sure that the child was a girl. Might there be a Bishop's Transcript or some other copy of the same record which would have the page intact?
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Are there any BTs? They can be really useful in such cases.
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Old 19-11-20, 15:42
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Have you looked at the Diocesan Record Office catalogue for the area? That should tell you whether there are any surviving BTs (Surrey had virtually nothing before 1800)

Also look for wills, which might mention children and Poor Law, which again might name children. Plus marriages of siblings for witnesses.
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According to this the surviving BT's do include that year:

http://www.mdlp.co.uk/resources/ratc...earch.htm#Bish
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FamilySearch has indexed the BT's and they have the baptism entry for 3 Dec 1775 as John Williamson, son of John and Catherine.
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If Tamar is the one who died Apr-Jun 1846 Market Bosworth district, her age at death was given as 70, so she was born about 1775-6. On the 1841 census she is 60 (i.e. 60 to 64), born Leicestershire:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...28?pId=6455852
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Is this them in 1841?

https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...4a70e3012cb945

and then:

CARTER, TAMAR 70
GRO Reference: 1846 J Quarter in MARKET BOSWORTH Volume 15 Page 120
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lol snap Kate!
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Thank you all. Yes, "Tamar His Wife" and the 1846 death registration are both her. Samuel's age was also given as 60 in 1841, but the 1774 birth record is the only one which fits.

If the 1775 baptism is for John (thanks Kite) then that looks like a dead end on Tamar, at least until I get a flash of inspiration from somewhere else...

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You should be able to get a copy of the BT entry from the Leics. Record Office in Wigston if you want to check it out.
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