Zipporah Williamson b 1876 Mottram,Cheshire - Page 12 - Genealogists' Forum

Merry · #**111** 07-01-10, 21:12

This seems the most likely death reg for Charles.

Deaths Mar 1865
WALKER Charles Ashton 8d 365

Merry · #**112** 07-01-10, 21:15

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Originally Posted by Margaret in Burton

1911 census. Denis and Zipporah are living at No6 Queen St, Garston, Liverpool.

It says she has been married 8 years and has had 4 children 2 of which have died.

So the eight years is a fabrication to cover the four children born to Denis and Zipporah? I would guess at least one of the children who died was born before the four year old if she had been with Denis for 8 years.

garstonite · #**113** 07-01-10, 21:24

Thanks Marg...a little confusing because we know by 1911 she had
James Walker b 1891
Thomas Walker b 1892....died 1892
Martha Walker b 1893
Denis McNamara b 1906
Veronica McNamara b 1909
Margaret b 1912 comes later
I think MAYBE there was a Vera Walker born between 1893 and Zipporah meeting Denis and SHE died...this would explain the TWO deaths ???..
Merry....Denis / Veronica / Margaret...who was the fourth child to Denis ??...I`ll have to check previous posts......allan

Margaret in Burton · #**114** 07-01-10, 21:29

Allan

She is asked how many children in that marriage. In other words she is answering how many children she had with Denis. We know they weren't actually married at the time but the enumerator didn't know that.

kiterunner · #**115** 07-01-10, 21:55

Margaret wouldn't be included in the count on the 1911 census because she was born in 1912, so it looks likely that Denis and Zipporah had two (other) children who died, whose names we haven't seen yet. There are so many McNamara deaths in West Derby district that it would be very difficult to pick out the right ones without more info.

Merry · #**116** 07-01-10, 22:04

Margaret is really bothering me! lol

What a pity it's Veronica everyone knows about and Margaret no one does. Searching for a Veronica is so much easier!

Margaret in Burton · #**117** 07-01-10, 22:12

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Originally Posted by Merry

Margaret is really bothering me! lol

What a pity it's Veronica everyone knows about and Margaret no one does. Searching for a Veronica is so much easier!

Merry

Are you saying that Margaret is a common name???????????????

Merry · #**118** 07-01-10, 22:21

Erm......No......Veronica was an uncommon one at that time

pmsl!!!!

kiterunner · #**119** 07-01-10, 22:25

There is a Margaret McNamara birth registered in West Derby Oct-Dec 1912 but the mother's maiden name is Moran. I thought there was a McNamara / Moran marriage in 1911 but checking it on Lancashire BMD, they didn't marry each other. There was a James McNamara / Frances S Moran marriage in 1920 and then there is a McNamara / Moran birth every year or two after that, so it seems unlikely that 1912 Margaret belonged to that couple. Although of course there was the First World War in between, which could explain it. Or maybe there was some mistake and the Margaret listed on the index is the right one but MMN is wrong.

(Edit - or possibly Moran was Zipporah's father's surname?)

Merry · #**120** 07-01-10, 22:31

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Originally Posted by kiterunner

(Edit - or possibly Moran was Zipporah's father's surname?)

Oooh, for about 24 hours I've been trying to remember a thought that whizzed thro my head yesterday which I then forgot and that was it! lol However, I can't help feeling that Margaret with mmn Moran was just the first of the children of the couple you mentioned, however much I want her to be Zipporah's