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They were at the same address Ann died at: https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...NTI0NjQxNzUuMA.. https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bi...NTI0NjQ2MjkuMA.. Last edited by maggie_4_7; 13-05-22 at 17:58. |
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So every single member of Emma Palmer's immediate family were dead by 1871? That's dreadful.
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My 3rd grt grandfather Daniel died 1866 and his wife Martha 1852, the other children were missing well to me they are. The only constant people were Daniel and Martha's two youngest daughters my 2nd grt grandmother Emma born 1842 and Jane her sister born 1836. Emma died in 1930 and Jane died in 1937 at age 101. I have a photo of Jane being presented with a card by the Mayor of Colchester when she was 100. Although three of Jane's children died of smallpox. |
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It has to be Emma Wingfield that is the DNA connection.
I have been cross checking matches. The highest match with Emma Wingfield as their direct ancestor is a DNA match with a descendent of Jane Wingfield (my Daniel's sister) the convict transported to Australia. |
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And there is Sarah in Dalston with a daughter Emma (Palmer). Emma appears to be orphaned by the early 1860s, with only her mother Wingfield's side of the family to look after her. If she went into the workhouse, it may have been discovered that her parents weren't married and she was properly a Wingfield. By 1871, she would have been old enough to be put in service somewhere.
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No my 2nd grt grandmother Emma Sayer nee Wingfield Daniel and Martha's daughter died in 1930. The Emma I am concerned with emigrated to USA and died there. This is the first post http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/f...ad.php?t=30700 |
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Ok, yes, I realised when I was planting my broad beans that I had mentioned a death that was for the previous generation!
So, Emma b 1857 Dalston eventually went to America, but as you don't know her whereabouts before her first marriage in 1879 you don't know who her parents are, but she should be a grandchild of Daniel and Martha because of the DNA match? Is that right?!
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Ok. It's so tempting to say she is the same person as Emma Ann Palmer, but you would think there might have been some sort of overlap with their supposed fathers details. US Emma said John Wingfield, provisions dealer and Emma Ann was the child of Frederick Palmer, merchant mariner or similar.
I think you said there were other children for Frederick Palmer. Did any of them live to adulthood?
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