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Old 21-09-10, 12:40
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Have you found any likely Elizabeths in 1851? I'm thinking she may have been married to someone else at that juncture, hence no marriage to James.
I did consider that - I did find a strange census last night I'll post a clip in a minute.

Probably nothing but who knows.
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Old 21-09-10, 13:11
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Just to add to the above:


Caroline Sawyer
Birth: 19 FEB 1827
Christening: 16 MAR 1827 Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Julia Prestone Sawyer
Birth: 23 FEB 1830
Christening: 16 MAY 1830
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England
Death: 18 MAR 1832

Julia Sawyer
Birth: 03 AUG 1832
Christening: 02 SEP 1832
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Richard Adolphus Sawyer
birth 19 SEP 1834
Christening: 03 MAY 1835
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Walter Augustus Sawyer
Birth: 01 SEP 1836
Christening: 15 OCT 1837
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

Clarissa Emma Sawyer
birth 01 MAY 1840
Christening: 27 SEP 1840
Saint Mary-St Marylebone Road, Saint Marylebone, London, England

1851 Census
HARACE, Elizh Head Widow F 39 1812 Strain Bonnet Maker St James Middlesex
SANGER, Julia Daughter Unmarried F 18 1833 Strain Bonnet Maker Marylebone
Middlesex
SANGER, Adolphus Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Marylebone Middlesex
SANGER, Walter Son Unmarried M 14 1837 Errand Boy Marylebone Middlesex
SANGER, Theara Daughter F 10 1841 Scholar Marylebone Middlesex
SANGER, Frederk Son M 4 1847 At Home Marylebone Middlesex

SAINT PANCRAS, Middlesex
HO107 piece 1494 folio 130 page 38
Address:
14, Little Charlotte Street, Saint Pancras, Marylebone

This is transcribed by FMP - Ancestry might be different.
The surname of the children is definitely SAWYER>
Why is Elizabeth using a different surname? I can't find a marriage to a Mr Harker/Harkin for her. (It looks like Harker/Harkin on the image)


Where did Frederick come from??
Thank you.

I think this is a possible family connection that's for sure.
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Old 21-09-10, 15:07
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I did consider that - I did find a strange census last night I'll post a clip in a minute.

Probably nothing but who knows.
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin...off=1+13+14+35

Weird it supports the information that ElizabethHerts found on an Elizabeth Sawyer born to Richard and Elizabeth with a son RIchard on the 1841 census but is it my Elizabeth?

Could that be Benge but what is Charles' name is it Benge or Bene and is his name Charles? Can't read any of it to be honest.

Another red herring I suspect Elizabeth's age is 25 on that census!

Edit to say: from all the documentation I have Elizabeth was born in 1826'ish so not so unlikely I think I thought it was the 1841 census when I posted that reference to her age - tsk slaps my own wrists for not paying attention!

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Old 21-09-10, 15:19
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Maggie, could you put the reference up for the link on the last post (i.e. the Census ref. no.) as I don't have Ancestry and can't view it.

I think I know the one you mean because I found a BENE with a SAWYER, if I remember correctly.
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Old 21-09-10, 15:22
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Class: HO107; Piece: 1466; Folio: 7; Page: 7; GSU roll: 87787.

I don't think it's her by the way but I could be wrong. It could be her but her husband is a printer and born somewhere totally different! It just caught my eye Bene and Sawyer. What do you think?

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Old 21-09-10, 15:28
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Yes, that's the one I saw. It's very confusing and the writing is terrible, which doesn't help.
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