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Old 24-02-18, 13:59
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A recent newspaper find, by a friend, of a report on my gg uncle Robert Barley during the first world war has led me to looking at his family (one of my favourites) even further. I managed to find his wife, who was mentioned in the article and also a son, who sadly died shortly after birth and have been tracing his siblings.
His brother Fred (c1875) was in Great Yarmouth in 1911, aboard the SS Salvor. making use of Ancestry's free weekend, I have seen that it clearly says he was married 9 years with 2 surviving children. I found a marriage in Sculcoates in 1906 to either Mary Ellen Haworth or Ellen Bullock but can find no trace of the wife and children in 1911. I know this marriage is a few years short of the 9 years he claims but his father claimed to have been married 48 years in 1911, when he had actually only been married for 3!

Can anyone trace Mrs Barley and their children please?
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Yorkshire BMD shows that the 1906 marriage was to Mary E Haworth at St Philips, Bilton Grange. But I can't find any Barley / Haworth births between 1906 and 1911 on the online GRO birth index.
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This must be Mary and the children in 1911:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults

10 Victoria Ter, Drypool
Mary E Barley Wife 32 Married 5 years, 2 children, 2 living - crossed out and replaced with none for both Blackburn Lancs
Catherine J Howarth Stepdaughter crossed out and replaced with daughter, 12, school, Bradford Yorkshire
Albert Howarth Stepson crossed out and replaced with son, 11, school, Bradford Yorkshire.

Although "wife" hasn't been crossed out and replaced with "head", I guess that the stepdaughter / daughter, stepson / son change was made to fit with Mary being head instead of Fred.
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This must be Mary and the children in 1911:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults

10 Victoria Ter, Drypool
Mary E Barley Wife 32 Married 5 years, 2 children, 2 living - crossed out and replaced with none for both
Catherine J Howarth Stepdaughter crossed out and replaced with daughter, 12, school, Bradford Yorkshire
Albert Howarth Stepson crossed out and replaced with son, 11, school, Bradford Yorkshire.

Although "wife" hasn't been crossed out and replaced with "head", I guess that the stepdaughter / daughter, stepson / son change was made to fit with Mary being head instead of Fred.
Perhaps he was away at sea. I have several families like this, where the wife and family are at home and husband can be assumed to be at sea.
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That's great Kate, thanks. If the children weren't Fred's, no wonder I couldn't find them.

I haven't managed to find them in 1901 though or a birth for them. Fred was at home with his parents in Barton upon Humber in 1901
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This looks like them in 1901:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...&usePUBJs=true

19 Wm Court, Bradford
George H Ellis Head M 42 Hawker Yorkshire Bradford
Mary E Ellis Wife M 24 Cotton spinner Blackburn Lancs
Catherin J Ellis Daur 3 Yorks Bradford
Albert Ellis Son 1 Do Do.

There is a birth for a Catherine Jane Ellis Apr-Jun 1898 Bradford, MMN Diggle. But I haven't found a likely birth reg for Albert yet.
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Okay, there is a Mary Ellen Diggle birth Jul-Sep 1878 Blackburn with MMN Haworth. But I haven't found a marriage to George Ellis yet.
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Why would she marry Fred, using the name of Haworth, if that was only her mother's maiden name, unless she was still married to George Ellis?
Very strange
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This is Mary in 1881:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults

3 Swarbrick St, Blackburn
Abram Diggle Head M 44 Master of machines in foundry Bolton Lanc
Catherine " Wife " 39 Blackburn "
Daniel " Son Unm 20 Machine maker " "
Walter " " 13 General labourer " "
Charles A " " 11 Cotton loomer " "
Albert Diggle Son 5 Infant Blackburn Lanc
Mary E " Daug 2 " " "
Nancy A " " 2 " " "
Catherine J " 2 mths " " "

Abraham Diggle married Catherine Howarth / Haworth Jul-Sep 1860 Blackburn.

1891 census:
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10 Rose Hill, Blackburn
Catherine Deggle Head Wid 48 Cotton winder Blackburn Lanc
Albert Do Son S 16 Apprentice ????? Do Do
Mary Do Daur 13 Cotton Weaver Do Do
Nancy Ann Do Do 12 Do Do Do
Catherine J Do Do 10 Scholar Do Do.

Strange that Mary and Nancy are down as different ages when they were twins!

Doesn't really help with figuring out who Mary married and when though.
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And this looks to be George in 1881:

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults

22 Orange St, Bradford
Sarah Knowles Head marr 37 Stuff weaver Yorkshire Masbro
Ellen Ellis Daur Do 20 Do Batley
Abraham Knowles Son unmar 18 Dyer Do Barnsley
George H Ellis Lodger Marr 24 Green Grocer Do Bradford
Edith A Knowles Daur 1 Do Do
Henry Ellis Son 7 mos Do Do.

There is a likely marriage between George Henry Ellis and Ellen Knowles Apr-Jun 1876 Bradford on FreeBMD.
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