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11-04-20, 12:56
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Here is Absalom junior births:
JONES, ABSALOM BENNETT GRO Reference: 1863 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 81 JONES, ABSALOM BELLIS GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 333
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11-04-20, 12:58
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11-04-20, 13:02
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Wow!! Thanks so much to all the replies
 - I cannot believe how many have replied and how quickly you have all replied. Thanks so much I will digest all the awesome info already supplied so far in this thread. Thanks for the links too. As a few have already said, I did not realise the importance of a marriage certificate. I thought all it would say would be mums maiden name. Again, a huge thank-you to you all. This should keep me busy today. Cheers Nick
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11-04-20, 13:05
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Absalom's burial:
First name(s) Absalom Last name Bellis Age 67 Birth year 1815 Burial year 1882 Burial date 16 May 1882 Place Rhosllanerchrugog Parish Rhosllanerchrugog County Denbighshire Country Wales Page 328 Archive year range - Record set Denbighshire Burials The image is on FindMyPast. Last edited by ElizabethHerts; 11-04-20 at 13:08.
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11-04-20, 13:15
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I don't think I gave the link to the Jones-Bellis marriage:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...F880065032%2F1
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11-04-20, 13:20
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Nick
As you've discovered, this is a friendly and helpful site! Civil registration began in 1837 and my experience is that early certs are a bit vague but moving on in the century they become more detailed. Early certs might just say "of full age" whereas later ones will give ages. Of course it helps if you can check with other sources. Certificates and censuses and parish registers are written by humans and what is recorded isn't always true.
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11-04-20, 13:34
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Nick - always get the certificates - don't assume anything lol. Verify everything even your bdm parents certificates - there could be unexpected surprises there that lead you down the wrong path.
I'd made an assumption thinking I knew the name of a direct ancestor only to find on a marriage certificate obtained years later and after lots of research that I'd followed the wrong family altogether.
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11-04-20, 13:35
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Absalom Jones birth and baptism:
JONES, ABSALOM BELLIS GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in WREXHAM Volume 11B Page 333 First name(s) Absalom Last name Jones Birth year 1865 Birth date ? ? 1865 Baptism year 1865 Baptism date 10 Jan 1865 Place Rhosllanerchrugog County Denbighshire Country Wales Father's first name(s) William Mother's first name(s) Sarah Page 40 Record set Denbighshire Baptisms https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...F879252009%2F1
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11-04-20, 14:37
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Absalom Bellis married Martha Dodd in Q4 1846 in the Wrexham Registration District. Volume 27 page 456
However, Sarah seems to have been born c. 1842. I can't find a birth registration for her under Bellis or Dodd. A Martha Dodd was baptised on Christmas Day 1816 at Ruabon, parents Robert and Mary, but it's too early to claim her as yours. https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...F879009075%2F1 You need to buy the marriage certificate for Martha Dodd and Absalom Bellis, details as above, to find out who her father was first.
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