Percival George Horne - missing in 1891?

[James18]

Hi all,

I'm trying to locate Percy Horne's family on the 1891 census. He was registered as George Percy Horne in Elham, Kent Dec 1880, but he went by the name Percival George Horne in later life. He died in 1917 during the First World War.

I have him, as a baby, at home with his parents in Folkestone in 1881, as a boarder in Chertsey in 1901, and at home with his first wife in 1911.

There do appear to be a couple of other Horne families in Kent, but I am unsure what to make of the discrepancies. For example, one of them has George Horne (the father) born in Ruckinge, Kent -- Percy's father (also a George) is down as being born in Chertsey, and I think that is where the family were from as it's where Percy eventually moved back to.

There are some baptisms on Ancestry for some other Horne children, and I suspect they will be for two (or more) separate families:

Herbert Henry Horne (died as a baby)
John Thomas Horne
Walter Horne
George Frederick Hodgson Horne

I think I have found Percy's father in 1871, living as a boarder in Chertsey, but I can't find him or his wife (Jane or Eliza Jane?) after 1881, or Percy in 1891. I assume George is still alive until at least 1904, as he is not mentioned as deceased on Percy's marriage entry.

Can anyone find this particular Horne family? I think the Ruckinge lot are a different family and I'm trying to unravel the two.

Thank you.

[kiterunner]

Not found him yet, but this could be his parents' marriage on FamilySearch:

George Horne, 23, single, married Jane Watson, 23, single, 3 Apr 1879 Folkestone, Kent, fathers' names Harry Horne and John Watson.

[kiterunner]

So this looks like George with his family in 1861:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/87...d=&usePUB=true

[kiterunner]

And this could be Jane with her family in 1861, under the name Eliza Jane:
http://interactive.ancestry.co.uk/87...nSearchResults

[kiterunner]

There is an Eliza Jane Horn death Oct-Dec 1890 West Ham district, age 35.

[Merry]

I was a bit confused by the bap for George Frederick Hodgson Horne (Oct 1882 Folkestone, parents Geo and Eliza Jane) who seems to appear nowhere else! Could he be George Percy with another name variation?

I should think this child belongs you your couple:


Births Sep 1882
Horne Frederick Watson Elham 2a 997

He seems to be a boarder in Chertsey in 1901 but that's the only positive sighting I had.

[Merry]

I was a bit confused by the bap for George Frederick Hodgson Horne (Oct 1882 Folkestone, parents Geo and Eliza Jane) who seems to appear nowhere else! Could he be George Percy with another name variation?

I just found the bap image for the above on fmp. There is no address recorded, just Folkestone. The father is a butler (step up from hotel waiter in 1881?!). It's the only baptism on the double page not to have a dob recorded. I just registered the fact that this bap is after Frederick Watson Horne's birth, so the bap could be George Percy or Frederick Watson!! Could Hodgson have been a mis-hearing of Watson?

This family remind me of my Wells family and that isn't a good thing!

[Merry]

The bap for Herbert Henry Horne you linked to in the opening post is also on fmp. Address Guildhall St, father's occ waiter.

[Merry]

re the 1891 census, I'm wondering about these two...

ancestry have Percey Horn b 1887 and Fredk Horn b 1882 (those spellings and years) both b Chertsey as inmates of an institution I haven't got time to check the name of, but it's in Ottershaw*. Though they've transcribed Percy's age as 4 I think he is listed as 11.

You would need to see if there were boys with these names registered for birth in Chertsey district if you want to try and eliminate them, but you said the family had Chertsey links so I can see how the birth places might have become confused.

Time to go to the dentist now...........

*EDIT - Chertsey Union Workhouse

[Merry]

You would need to see if there were boys with these names registered for birth in Chertsey district if you want to try and eliminate them

I've not been able to eliminate them!