Puddephatt - Born Marylebone

[kiterunner]

Okay, here's another 1851 census entry which may or may not be a red herring, but the writing is going to take a bit of deciphering:
1851 census on ancestry

Pood's Cross, Bovingdon, Herts
James Ambrose Head M 40 Ag Lab Herts Flaunden
Mary Do Wife M 40(?) Straw Plaiter(?) Herts Bovingdon
Fanny Do Daur 7 Herts Do
Joseph Do Son 4 Herts Do
William Do Son 2 Herts Do
Eliza Puddiphat StepDaur U 17 Straw Plait Herts Do
Jno Do Do Son 12(?) Herts Do

[kiterunner]

This is the 1861 census entry for that family, somewhat clearer:
1861 census on ancestry
Elberns Wharf, Hemel Hempstead, Herts
James Ambrose Head Mar 54 Ag Lab Herts Bovingdon
Mary Do Wife Do 53 Straw Plaiter Do Do
Fanny Do Daur Un 20 Do Do Do Do
William Do Son 10(?) Paper Lab Do Do
Charlotte Do Daur 9 Straw Plaiter Do Kings Langley

Wonderful Kate. I am rushing out now and will collate and absorb what you have found when I come home. Many thanks.
How do you think the name Puddephatt is pronounced? I have one of my Ware girls possibly marrying one at Herts.
Not sure if the change was deliberate to cover his origins OC. Before Henry got his pardon the name is Puddephatt, after it became Pettiford.

[kiterunner]

Originally Posted by tenterfieldjulie

How do you think the name Puddephatt is pronounced?

I think it is Puh-di-fat but am prepared to be corrected!

[Olde Crone]

Well, not much use as a concealer, lol. In my opinion, Puddephatt and Pettiford sound very similar. If my name was Puddephatt and I was wanting to hide, I'd change my name to Snodgrass, not to something which sounds the same.

(It's pronounced Puddy fat I believe.)

OC

I've been looking at the newspaper mentions and there were two other convicts called Pettiford - Thomas and William, they are mentioned in Trove between 1838 and 1846 in Tasmania.
Henry gets a mention as Puddephatt in 1840 when he gets his ticket-of-leave.
William McVilley registers two grandson's birth at Hobart in 1843 and 1845 and he names them as male children of Henry Pettiford.
The first time Henry I can see he is referred to as Pettiford in newspapers is in 1848 when he is a juror in an inquest, then in 1854 two boys - who I believe are his sons, Henry in 2nd class and A. in 5th class, have their results from a private school published. Maybe those in authority couldn't get their head around Puddephatt.

[kiterunner]

Hmm, some public trees on ancestry show the Mary who was married to James Ambrose as Mary Puddephat born 6 Sep 1812 and baptised 18 Apr 1813 at Bovingdon, in which case I don't think she is the Mary Ann who was married to Henry. But according to FamilySearch, Eliza who was baptised in 1837 at Bovingdon was the daughter of a Henry and Mary, and then James Ambrose has a stepdaughter Eliza Puddephat age 17 on the 1851 census. I can't find James and Mary's marriage although some public trees have it as 16 Oct 1841 at Bovingdon.

So I'm still not sure whether Mary Ambrose is the right Mary or not!

Nothing is straightforward with this family it appears.

[kiterunner]

I should add I was hoping to find something in the Marylebone poor law records on ancestry about the Henry who was born in 1837 but the records didn't seem to cover the right dates.

I think any birth after early 1836 can be discounted as he was convicted on 4 March 1835.. I don't think they had marital visits on the hulks, although he was there for a further 6months.

The birth of Henry Puddefoot baptised at Little Gaddesden, Herts to Joseph and Sarah is promising, as is the marriage of Henry Puddefoot to Mary Ann Franklin 1834 at Hertford. I don't think any of the children are his because of the date of his conviction?