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Sorry, Shona, I'm still not with you - are you saying that the William who married Esther was still alive on the 1851 census, as well as the William who this thread is about?
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I just have to ask if it's possible that William Callen Ellen's father could have been born in Glasgow ? And not in Ashton in Makerfield as there are a few William Callen s born there ? I definetly had a aunt or a relative in that area . That's why I think that William could have been Scottish .?
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Anything is possible, though he did say born in Lancs in 1841 and born in Ashton Lancs in 1851.
Whilst in theory it's possible he was born outside of Lancashire, I don't understand your reasoning for wondering about this - you say you had an aunt or relative in Glasgow, but what does that have to do with a man born in the 18th Century?
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hi , One of the calland clan is trying to establish ,ann lea's birth place from post 13 , she is saying the only one that firsts is a one in Calne wiltshire In 1775 ,which is a lon way from lancashire . i also found a birth of a ann lea in 1776 in ashton under lyne ? have you any ideas . There isn't many births to fit that comes up on Family search ,but there may be more on Ancestry . Thanks
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So you are looking for the baptism of this bride:
Marriage: 19 Jul 1785 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England William Calland - Haigh Ann Lea - Haigh Witness: Peter Grimshaw; Gerd. Bancks Married by Banns by: Page Godfrey Notes: [Bride signed Ann Ley] Source: LDS Film 1885689 I don't see why she would be born about 1775/6 because that would make her about 10 when she married! Perhaps you have a burial for her with her age recorded? If you do, are you sure it's the right Ann Calland? So we are looking for a baptism for an Ann Lea, parents Thomas and Betty (from post #13). I would expect the issue to be that there are far too many possible baptisms rather than only one in the wrong county and at a date that doesn't work! I've only looked at Lancs OPC (where I'm assuming you will have looked already) and did ten years either way of 1760. That gave me five matches, so you would need to use your local knowledge to decide if any are not likely geographically and also try and establish what happened to each of these Anns to see if you can rule any out (eg if any of them died young etc). Baptism: ? Jan 1749/50 St Laurence, Chorley, Lancashire, England Ann Leigh - Daughter of Thomas Leigh Register: Baptisms 1709 - 1768, Page 45, Entry 29 Source: LDS Film 93703 Baptism: 8 Jul 1753 St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, Lancashire, England Anne Lee - Daughter of Thos. Lee Abode: Pendleton Source: Manchester Central Library Baptism: 31 Mar 1754 St Laurence, Chorley, Lancashire, England Ann Leigh - Daughter of Thomas Leigh Register: Baptisms 1709 - 1768, Page 50, Entry 8 Source: LDS Film 93703 Baptism: 19 Sep 1762 St Peter, Bolton, Lancashire, England Ann Lee - Daughter of Thos. Lee & Betty Abode: Turton Source: LDS Family Search Baptism: 6 Feb 1767 St Mary the Virgin, Leigh, Lancashire, England Ann Lee - Daughter of Thomas Lee Abode: Bedford Register: Baptisms 1757 - 1769, Page 110 Source: LDS Film 1885648
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hi ,did you also see the one in calne wiltshire 1765..?
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what they are saying calland clan in the U.S if she was born far away from lancashire how would she end up there , the problem is ,i have no idea .
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i also found a birth father thomas in newcastle under lyne . around 1766 so like you say there are many possibilities .thanks
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No. Why would I be interested in that? It's far too late and in an unrealistic part of the country.
EDIT see post 33 re date. Quote:
Why would you be looking in Newcastle under Lyme when there are dozens and dozens of Thomas Lea entries in Lancashire?
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I think people need to grasp the fact that sometime it can be very difficult to work out the correct line for their tree, especially with common names and ordinary occupations in a given area. It can take years and years to get to the bottom of the data sometimes. Maybe even decades. Very often you never will. Oh and BTW, the Ann Lea, dau of Thomas and Betty Lea who was bap in Calne in 1765 was buried in 1774 in Calne.
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