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Old 07-05-12, 17:56
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.....unless this is her?

Name: Helen Spencer
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 04 Jan 1816
Baptism/Christening Place: NEWTON UPON OUSE,YORK,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: James Spencer
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Catharine


making her NOT William's sister! lol
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Old 07-05-12, 18:16
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Her first-born named for her father? (she had a Catherine (for her mother?) in 1849)

Name: James Spence
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 14 Apr 1837
Baptism/Christening Place: NEWTON UPON OUSE,YORK,ENGLAND
Mother's Name: Ellen Spence

You may have guessed, I have no idea where I'm going with this and have to vanish shortly!! lol
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Old 07-05-12, 18:30
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I'm just hanging onto the sides of the roller coaster, Merry! When you have to leave I'll take a deep breath and go take my shower.
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Old 07-05-12, 18:36
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lol Janet! I have gone! Back later.....
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So, going back the start....

We have this:

IGI has an extracted record for a George Spence christened 25 NOV 1829, Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England, with father William Spence and mother Ann. Could be him, but I really don't know.

and we have a family headed by Wm and Elizabeth in 1841/51. So, we need Wm to have a remarriage between 1829 and 1841.
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Old 07-05-12, 20:00
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Hmmmmm....problem?

We have this:

IGI has an extracted record for a George Spence christened 25 NOV 1829, Knaresborough, Yorkshire, England, with father William Spence and mother Ann.

but there is also this one:

Name: Robert Spence
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 04 Apr 1830
Baptism/Christening Place: KNARESBOROUGH,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: William Spence
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Anne


and these two COULD belong to this family:

Briggate, Knaresborough

William Spence 40 Butcher Yes
Ann Spence 40 Yes
Maria Spence 20 Yes
Wm Spence 15 Yes
Robert Spence 11 Yes
Ann Spence 6 Yes
Jane Spence 11 Mo Yes

Which would mean we don't have the right bap for George. (maybe.....)
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Old 07-05-12, 20:16
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Entirely possible! I was worried about that.

As if we didn't have enough red herrings yet, I've just remembered the Mary Spense who is 2 doors down from the Gardener family in Coxwold in 1841:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...=&pid=11773090

Lunch is being prepared for me and I have to go try to calm down sufficiently to eat it! Back shortly.

EDIT: Never mind! That Mary Spense doesn't look likely, and anyway I've just realized that George probably met Jane in York, not in Coxwold.
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Old 07-05-12, 21:12
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At his second marriage George said his father was a waggoner. At W's last census appearance he was a carter, so similar. He was dead by 1871 though, which isn't mentioned if he is the right Wm for George's cert. I think Wm and Elizabeth both died in the late 1860s in York District (after the ages kick in on the index.)
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I know it's not terribly relevant at this stage of the thread, but Bootham Bar is one of the ancient town gates in the York city walls.
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Old 07-05-12, 22:04
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Also irrelevant.....

Some of my relatives were students or teachers at Bootham (Quaker) School in York, which I guess is also in this district of the town?
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