William Hairyes marriage or birth?

[Mary from Italy]

Yes, he died in 1890. I'll check the censuses again for you.

This is one of my posts on FTF, with some notes about William's marriages and children:

Children of William and Mary Ann Richmond (married 1847, Mary Ann died 1854):

None found so far

EDIT: probable child of William and Mary Ann:

Births Dec 1854
Haryes Ann Ripon 9a 67

Deaths Dec 1854
Haryes Ann Ripon 9a 53
Haryes Mary Ann Ripon 9a 51

Ann Haryes, infant, buried at Kirby Malzeard on 24/12/1854 (NBI)

There's a burial for a Mary Ann Haynes, aged 27, at the same church on 23/10/1854, who must be her mother, as there's no other burial there with a similar name to Haryes.


Children of William and Hannah Tiplin (married 1858; Hannah died q2 1867):

Henry, b. 1859 Knaresborough RD, bp 1859
? Elizabeth b 1861 Knaresborough RD (not found on census, and can’t see a baptism or death for her)
? John c 1866 (on census, but can’t find a birth or baptism)

Children of William and Elizabeth Hogg (married q3 1867; Elizabeth died 1882):

Hannah b q4 1867 Knaresborough RD
Mary b 1870, Knaresborough RD
Ada Whorler/Waller b 1877 Knaresborough RD, bp 1877
William Whorley b 1872 Bramley RD
George Thomas W b 1874 Bramley RD
James Arthur W b 1878 Bramley RD
? Samuel b 1881 Bramley RD (not found on census)

Children of William and Mary Ann Hoys (married 1885; William died 1890):

None found so far, but haven’t found Mary Ann in 1891 yet.


The name Whorler/Whorley/Waller appears to be significant, and I wonder if it was William's mother's maiden name. Haven't found a Hairyes/Whorler etc. marriage yet, though, and as it wasn't used before 1867, it may be connected with Elizabeth. I image the W in James and George's names stands for Whorler or whatever.

I haven't found a lot in the West Yorks baptisms yet, but there's probably more to be found in New Wortley. The Ripon and Knaresborough area baptisms may not be there, depending on where they took place exactly.

[Mary from Italy]

William's marriages and death:

Marriages Dec 1847
HARES William Ripon 23 571
RICHMOND Mary Ann Ripon 23 571 +

I've assumed this is the same William as the others because of the Thirsk birthplace in the 1851 census, but we really need the marriage cert.

Marriages Dec 1858
HAIRYES William Knaresbro' 9a 154
Tipling Hannah Knaresborough 9a 154

Marriage cert:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=9631224

William Haryes, 27, bachelor, farmer, father William Haryes, turner.

Marriages Sep 1867
Hairyes William Knaresbro' 9a 132
Hogg Elizabeth Knaresbro' 9a 132

Zoenel has this cert: father William, ag lab.

Marriages Jun 1885
HAIRYES William Bramley 9b 464
Hoys Mary Ann Bramley 9b 464

Marriage cert:

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec?h...c=&pid=7513060

William Hairyes, 50, widower, porter, father William Hairyes deceased, lawyer (written very clearly - doesn't look like sawyer)

Deaths Jun 1890
Hairyes William 59 Bramley 9b 270

[Merry]

Thanks very much Mary.

I suppose the chances are his family were called Harris!

[Mary from Italy]

I can't check the censuses on Ancestry at the mo because I'm getting the boy with the noose. I'll have a look at them later.

[Mary from Italy]

Originally Posted by Merry

Thanks very much Mary.

I suppose the chances are his family were called Harris!

Not necessarily

I had a look to see where the name might have come from; no idea how accurate this site is, but it sounds plausible:

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Hairyes

[Mary from Italy]

Censuses

1851 (may not be the right William)

Living at Kirkby Malzeard, Yorks.

William Haryes, head, 24, farm labourer, born Thirsk parish
Mary Ann, wife, 25

1861

Living at Bilton with Harrogate

William Hairyes, head, 30, ag lab, born Balk, Yorkshire
Anna, wife, 25
Henry, son, 1

1871

Living in Knaresborough

William Hairyes, head, 37, ag lab, born Scotland
Elizabeth Hairyes, wife, 31
Henry Hairyes, son, 10
Emily Hogg, wife's daughter, 9
John Hairyes, son, 6,
Anna Hairyes, daughter, 3
Mary Hairyes, daughter, 10 months

1881

Living in New Wortley, near Leeds, West Yorks

William Hairges, head, 46, railway porter, born "on the ocean"
Elizabeth Hairges, wife, 41
Henery Hairges, son, 21
Emily Hogg, stepdaughter, 19
John Hairges, son, 16
Hannah Hairges, daughter, 13
Mary Hairges, daughter, 10
Wm Hairges, son, 8
George T Hairges, son, 6
James A Hairges, son, 2

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Mary from Italy

I can't check the censuses on Ancestry at the mo because I'm getting the boy with the noose. I'll have a look at them later.

1851: HO107 Piece:2281 Folio:479 Page:9

1861: RG09 Piece:3207 Folio:8 Page:9

1871: RG10 Piece:4284 Folio:54 Page:5

I can't find 1881 on FMP

[Merry]

lol cross-posted!

[Mary from Italy]

There is a Hairs family at Elloughton, Yorkshire (nowhere near Harrogate/Knaresborough or Thirsk) in 1841, but I don't think it's the right one.

William Hairs, 24, ag lab
Elizabeth, 28
William, 5
Joseph, 4

[Mary from Italy]

I've just edited post #22 to add marriage details and links to the marriage certs on Ancestry.
None of the witnesses appear to be related to William.

One name keeps cropping up, which may be significant.

The son William's full name was William Whorley Hairyes according to his birth entry on FreeBMD.

Another probable daughter, who was born and died between censuses (in 1877), was Ada Whorler Hairyes on her birth entry and Ada Waller Hairyes on her death entry.

Two of the children's births are listed as George Thomas W and James Arthur W Hairyes. If I remember rightly, James' third name was given as Whorler when he married, but Ancestry's still playing up, so I can't check.

Whorler/Whorley/Walley might be William's mother's maiden name, but I haven't found a Hairyes to Whorler etc. marriage, and the name isn't used by the family before 1867, so it may relate to Elizabeth Hogg's family.