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Old 30-10-20, 11:29
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Yes.

Margaret Cressey, daughter of Kate is born somewhere around 14 Feb 1876, according to the 1939 census.

Kate Campbell marries William Daniel Cressey in the March quarter of 1876.

Elizabeth Cressey mmn Campbell is born March quarter 1880 South Shields.

Margaret is the only one we can find in 1881, living with her maternal granny.

Kate is calling herself Cressey and Campbell in 1883.

Peter Cressey is born in 1886 and since William has both Elizabeth and Peter living with him in 1891 as daughter and son, one must assume that they are his. William calls himself married, so knows that Kate is still around. She dies in 1894 (we think!)
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I am still struggling with the Kate Cressey who is apparently married to Joseph according to the 1891 census, below. The fact that she says b Grimsby makes me feel that she is the right Kate, but who is Joseph who doesn't appear anywhere else? And no reg for the son, William.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...a6b5f&pId=6476
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I am still struggling with the Kate Cressey who is apparently married to Joseph according to the 1891 census, below. The fact that she says b Grimsby makes me feel that she is the right Kate, but who is Joseph who doesn't appear anywhere else? And no reg for the son, William.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...a6b5f&pId=6476
I could wish William was about ten years younger, as he sits between Margaret and Elizabeth. But...

My theory would be that Kate was known in the area and Joseph wasn't, so he took her surname on census night. For all we know, William is his son so has a different surname. Having found this situation happening in my own family, I no longer think it far fetched. Especially if the enumerator confronts Kate, she blurts out her surname and then describes Joseph as her husband.
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Yes that's probably it. My father-in-law changed his surname to that of my mother-in-law's previous husband so that when they married she could keep the same surname. Obviously I have known this for decades, but when I write it down it sounds really strange!
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I have one in my tree where the husband took the wife's surname for a while, I'm guessing because he didn't want someone to find him.
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I am working my way through Josephs who are bricklayers!

I note that in 1881 Joseph Guthrie was living next door but one to the Tooles. He joined the army and I'm not sure whether he was in the army or just the reserves in 1891. He appears to been able to vote* in respect of property in Stewarts Yard High Street, which is only three census pages on from Joseph "Cressey".

*Though that may have been his father!
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Ooh, I saw Joseph Guthrie, but I don't remember why I picked him out now. It wasn't your reason though.
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I am still struggling with the Kate Cressey who is apparently married to Joseph according to the 1891 census, below. The fact that she says b Grimsby makes me feel that she is the right Kate, but who is Joseph who doesn't appear anywhere else? And no reg for the son, William.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageview...a6b5f&pId=6476
Thats why I asked about Catherine/Kate I saw that census.
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Old 30-10-20, 16:51
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I have no idea whwew this takes us, but Leo Morphew, nephew aged 14 in 1891 in Brixton with George and Mary Foster is the son of George Morphew and Margaret Grady:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/reco...1%2F0014820040


In 1881 the family are at 14 Wellington St Grimsby
George Morphew Head Married Male 30 1851 Engine Smith (Mk) Mereworth, Kent, England
Margaret Morphew Wife Married Female 30 1851 - Louth, Lincolnshire, England
John E Morphew Son Single Male 4 1877 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Leo Morphew Son Single Male 3 1878 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Augusta Morphew Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Grimsby, Lincolnshire, England
Mary Gray Mother In Law Married Female 58 1823 Travellor (Hawk) Hull, Yorkshire, England
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This thread has run away with me as I have been busy with other things.

Do you think it would be a good idea to summarise your findings for Blue Crane because it might take a long time trying to analyse them?
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