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Default Rev DB Jones

You would think this one should be easy with two initials to work with, but there is no DB Jones in 1920 or 1922 Crockford. He is not the Baptist Rev DB Jones from Cardiff, he will be C of E but might reside outside the UK.

JONES, D B not identified
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(1921) enrolled as from Dyffryn Merionethshire
Jul 1921 member 1st AngloCatholic Priests’ Convention Oxford
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No D B Jones in 1932 Crockford's either.
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Welsh Newspapers Online on the National Library of Wales website only goes up to 1919, but does have this, which at least gives us his middle name, which it looks as though he was known by:

https://newspapers.library.wales/vie...90/3689706/27/

Y Llan 5 Dec 1919
Ardudwy Notes
The many friends of the Rev D Basil Jones, Rector of Dyffryn, will be pleased to hear that he is progressing well after his recent operation, and is now at the rectory.
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This is handy!

Barmouth and County Advertiser, 16 Apr 1914
The Rev D Basil Jones, rector of Penstrowed, Montgomeryshire, has been appointed rector of Llanenddwyn and Llanddwyway, Dyffryn, as successor to the Rev D R Lewis... Mr Jones is a son of the vicar of Llanllwchaiarn, Newtown, and takes a great interest in antiquarian matters. Mr Jones is well known in Barmouth, having some years ago been curate here.

https://cymru1914.org/en/view/newspaper/4011002/5
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Oh, he didn't like being a boring plain Jones, so he switched to the surname Basil-Jones!

Crockford's 1932:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...d=GB1003-00079

BASIL-JONES, David James - Univ of Ox. BA 1901, MA 1905, St Mich Coll Aberdare, 1901 d 1902 Ban p 1903 St A for Ban. C of Holyhead 1902-6; Llanaber 1906; R of Penstrowed 1906-14; Llanenddwyn w Llanddwywe 1914-22; Criccieth w Treflys 1922-29; V of Carno 1929-31; Llandegai, Dio Ban from 1931. (Gross and Net Inc 340l and Ho.) Llandegai Vicarage, Bangor.

And here he is in 1911 with wife Gwendolen:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...=successSource

He is age 32, born Carmarthenshire. Just trying to find his birth reg now...
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On the 1939 Register his dob is 9 Feb 1879:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults

David James B Jones married Charlotte Gwendoline E Thomas Jul-Sep 1905 Holyhead registration district. So Charlotte is the same person as Gwendolen.

There are two David James Jones births registered Jan-Mar 1879 Newcastle in Emlyn district, which included part of Carmarthenshire. Both with MMN Jones, which doesn't help. I was hoping one would have MMN Basil! I suppose we should be able to trace him back via the details of his father though.
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Hmm, I assume this is his father in 1911, in which case (a) David wasn't a boring old plain Jones anyway, but an Evan-Jones, and (b) he had a younger brother called Basil! Very confused now!

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults

Llanllwchaiarn Vicarage, Newtown, Montgomeryshire
Richard Evan-Jones Head 61 Married Church of England Clergyman Lynesack Durham
Hannah Rose Evan-Jones Wife 60 Married 25 years, 2 children, 2 living, born Routh (?) Ferry Cheshire
Basil Evan-Jones Son 23 Single Student (Theological) Llanllwchaiarn Montgomeryshire
+ 2 servants.

If the number of years married is correct, then David wasn't a son of this marriage.
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Richard Evan Jones married Hannah Rose Bishop Oct-Dec 1885 Wrexham district. She was nee Evans and previously married to Samuel Richardson Bishop, in 1873.

There is a Richard Evan Jones marriage in Oct-Dec 1877 in St Asaph district, to either Jane Jones or Winifred Jones, which would fit with either of those possible birth regs for David.

No children with Richard and Hannah in 1901:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...=successSource

But their surname was just plain Jones, then. So I'm guessing that both father and son changed to different double-barrelled surnames about the same time as each other.

David isn't with Richard and Hannah in 1891 either and they have two sons, Basil and Hilary:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...=successSource

And bother! Richard is a lodger in 1881 and David isn't with him:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...=successSource

Not easy to find the right David on the pre-1911 censuses as we don't know exactly where he was born. There are quite a lot of David Joneses age 2 born Carmarthenshire living with grandparents on the 1881 census, for instance. But we do have a lot more info about him than when we started!
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WOW Kate!

I found a Basil Dennis Jones, who became Basil Dennis-Jones and discounted him because he did not fit the AngloCatholic mode, and he was son of Rev Arthur Jones, I wonder if they are all related.

I now have him as Basil-Jones in the 1920 Crockford.

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I have found the marriage record for the marriage of David James Basil-Jones to Charlotte Gwendolyn Elizabeth Thomas, and on that it has his father as James Jones contractor, and I have found that family. In 1901 they have a son David James Jones, who was an undergraduate at Oxford, so I am not sure where the clergy father come in, although his father in law was clergy.
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