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Old 22-09-11, 17:13
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Default Please....can anyone find this family?

Ancestry have an army record with the following information on it which could possibly help knock a chink in one of my brickwalls:

GEORGE BEAUMONT born 1879/1880 at Emsworth,Hampshire enlisted in the Royal Army Service Corps at Aldershot 12th July 1898. He was 18 years and 7 months old. His occupation was "Groom".

His next of kin are

Father: T (or it might be J) BEAUMONT.

Mother : M. BEAUMONT
both of King Street,Emsworth,Hampshire plus

Y.brother: ED. BEAUMONT ( I take this to mean younger brother).

It isn't clear when the next of kin details were entered as he served until 1910 and then again in WW1 until 1918 and they are in totally different hand writing to anything else on the document.

My problem is that I can't find any other record of this family anywhere. They aren't on the '81,'91 or '01 censuses (although George himself was in S. Africa in 1901). Emsworth is on the outskirts of Havant in the enumeration district of Warblington. I have been through every page of the Emsworth returns for '91 and '01 (and I found King Street on both) but there is no-one called Beaumont in the entire village.

The only Beaumont birth registrations around the right time that I can find in the Havant Registration district which included Emsworth are for GEORGE BERTIE BEAUMONT in March 1886 and EDWARD CHARLES V.BEAUMONT in Dec 1887. This pair were indeed brothers as I've found them on the 1891 census (http://search.ancestry.co.uk/browse/...=Beaumont&st=g) where George Bertie is listed as Bertie. They were with their parents.... who were George and Emma. Not the family I'm looking for then! Anyway,by 1901 the whole family, including George Bertie, had moved to Sussex and,as I said, the George I'm looking for was in S. Africa then.

This lot are proving to be as big a mystery as the great grandfather (also called George Beaumont) I'm hoping they might shed some light on. I have never found any record of his birth or early life. The reason I'm interested in these Emsworth Beaumonts is because my George gave "Woodlands, Havant,Hampshire" as his intended address when he left the army in 1877. I have never known why as there has never been any other connection with Havant. Woodlands is a hamlet and a large house near to Emsworth and in the same enumeration district. The George who joined the army in 1898 is the same generation as my grandfather and his brothers so I'm wondering if his father was my great grandfather's brother. I need to find him before I can work on that theory though!

Is anyone up for a challenge please?
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Old 22-09-11, 17:37
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He was previously in the militia. Father's name Thomas. That gives an additional address of Silver Lion Inn Little Road Dover.
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Old 22-09-11, 18:16
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Okay, it's the Silver Lion MIDDLE ROW Dover. http://www.dover-kent.com/Silver-Lion.html

Presumably an accomodation address.
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Old 22-09-11, 18:20
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There is this family on the 1891:
King Street, Emsworth, Warblington, Hampshire
Beaumont Rogers Head M 58 Bookkeeper Lancashire Manchester
Matilda Rogers Wife M 42 Devon Plymouth
George B Rogers Son 10 Hants Emsworth
Nora Rogers Daur 8 Hants Emsworth
Florence Rogers Daur 6 Hants Emsworth
Edward Rogers Son 2 Hants Emsworth
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Old 22-09-11, 18:28
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And in 1881 at the same address:
Beaumont Rogers Head Mar 48 Clerk to Timber Merchant Lancashire Manchester
Matilda Do Wife Mar 31 Devon Plymouth
Emma Do Daur 14 Scholar Sussex Chichester
Herbert do Son 12 do Do Do
George B Rogers Son 4 months Hants Emsworth
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In 1901 at 20 King Street, Emsworth / Warblington
Beaumont Rogers Head M 70 late Clerk to Timber Merchant Lanc Manchester
Matilda Do Wife M 52 Devon Devonport
Florence do Daur S 16 Assistant to General House Furnisher Hants Emsworth
Herbert Hodgson Son 12 Hants Emsworth
Jack Lay Visitor 5 London St Pancras

I can't see George Rogers on the 1901 with a quick search. Birth registered as George Beaumont Rodgers Jan-Mar 1881 Havant.
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I have been through every page of the Emsworth returns for '91 and '01 (and I found King Street on both) but there is no-one called Beaumont in the entire village.
You must have been concentrating on the surnames, Ann!
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Old 22-09-11, 18:42
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Matilda is even still going strong in 1911. It's crossed out, but she says married 35 years and 4 children., all still alive.
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Yes, the eldest two children Herbert and Emma were Beaumont's children by his previous wife Elizabeth. On the 1871 census Beaumont says he was born Huddersfield Yorkshire rather than Manchester.
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Old 22-09-11, 19:19
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Thank you so much! I can't believe I missed those census entries, except.......

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You must have been concentrating on the surnames, Ann!
Yes, I was!

Off now to investigate whether or not I can tie up this family with my George B. although, given the Manchester connection, I'm not hopeful since he was supposed to be a Sussex man.
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