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Old 02-12-19, 07:44
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Thank , that a start , will try to find out more . I'm afraid I'm not on ancestry but can access it at my library ,so will check later in the week .
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Old 02-12-19, 08:36
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To save you a bit of time at the library:

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There may also be families for Margaret (1845), Ellen (1858), Mary (1862) and Peter (1865).
Ellen Grimshaw married Alfred Hough in 1875 in Skelmersdale. Witnesses George and Margaret Woodcock. Later census records show Ellen Hough b Scotland.

Margaret Grimshaw married George Woodcock in 1867 in Wigan district.

Mary Grimshaw not yet positively identified after 1881. Looked at three marriages in Wigan district for Mary (no middle name) Grimshaw 1881 to 1891 and none of those seem to be the right one. This could be her (obviously she might have married/died somewhere else, but there are too many Mary's born Ince to cross-reference unless you are really determined!):

Deaths Dec 1883
Grimshaw Mary 20 Wigan 8c 58

Peter Grimshaw married Sarah Brown 1891 (confirmed that's the right marriage by checking mmn for their children against the 1901 census)
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Your wonderful , thanks so much .??
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The question marks were emojis ,lol
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Old 02-12-19, 14:28
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Yes Ellen's birth is recorded as Helen Grimshaw , born trophichen 1858 to Ellen and William Grimshaw . So that's correct .
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John and Lavinia. Were living in orrell With Henry as a baby in 1911 , john and Henry were born in Orrell .
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Hi , found births of , Alfred and Ellen ,in skelmersdale Henry born in 1875 ,William born in 1877 and Eliza born in 1879 .
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Old 02-12-19, 15:24
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I think Alfred's and Ellen's Henry married Jane E simm in Chorley 1901 , it seems to fit they later emigrated to Massachusetts in 1905 , where they had two children , in 1920 they were in Bristol Massachusetts.
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I am trying to follow William born 1877 and Eliza 1879 ,marriages
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Old 02-12-19, 21:21
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William's death was registered the same Q as his birth.

Deaths Sep 1877
HOUGH William 0 Ormskirk 8b 459

Eliza married in 1902:

Eliza Hough Marriage 8 Nov 1902 Chorley, St James, spouse Joseph Jolly

In 1911 they are together with two children, Elizabeth Ellen, 7, and Eva, 4. They also have an adopted son called Henry Bentley aged 9. Henry's mmn was Hough, so you need to work out how he fits in.

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Hi , found births of , Alfred and Ellen ,in skelmersdale Henry born in 1875 ,William born in 1877 and Eliza born in 1879 .
You realise Ellen and Alfred Hough did have more children after 1881?
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