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And Margaret Barker, dob 27 Jun 1892, died Jul-Sep 1969 Aylesbury. I can't see a probate entry for her. I was hoping she might have a middle name on her death registration.
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There is a George T Barker / Margaret Robinson marriage Apr-Jun 1926 Bedford. Any newspaper notices?
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I saw that marriage, but though I did look for newspaper records I think it was before I got to the marriage.

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Sorry, been asleep!

I think on his marriage in 1954 Harold was described as the only son of George and Margaret.

I was wondering about adoption, or that he was the son of Margaret from an earlier marriage and they had married after 1916.

There are a number of Harold S births Dec q1916, but none are Robinson.
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He clearly was considered a son....

07 January 1949 - Bucks Herald - Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire

…..inducted vicar of Wingrave at the Parish Church of SS Peter and Paul. The new Vicar, 55 years of age, married with one son (the Rev. H. S. M. Barker, senior assistant priest at St. Saviour's Church. St. George’s Square. London. S.W.1), succeeds the Rev. Francis Stuart …..

There's a photo of George alongside this article!
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Oh my goodness, I think I may have sorted this some 3 years later!

George Thomas Barker was a single Clerk in Holy Orders at the St Andrews vicarage Walsall in 1921, so Harold born in 1916 cannot be his biological son

A George T Barker married Margaret Robinson June q 1926 registered Bedford

In 1939 Margaret was born 27 June 1892

In 1921 a Margaret Robinson was at 85 Highgate Road Walsall, single born Walsall, age 28 years 11 months, and she is with her widowed father and her brother

So that age would make her born later in June or in early July, so her age fits perfectly.

What does not fit is why, if this is them, the marriage was registered in Bedford. From 1916-1926 George was curate in Walsall, and 1926-1928 he was the curate at St Nicholas and St John Newport and the chapel of St Mathias city of Lincoln

Can anyone find anything to confirm this is the correct Margaret??
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I don't think that marriage (1926) is your couple. There are Barker/Robinson children b in Bedford district after 1926 and they appear on trees with father George Thomas Barker and Margaret Robinson, but this couple are younger than yours. Can't find them in 1939 yet though.
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Oh bother! It was fitting together so nicely!!!!
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I looked at the children registered 1916 Q4 registered Harold S and checked their middle names on the GRO index. I got rid of all those not middle name S?dney and was left with about a dozen. It was easy to eliminate some of those, mostly via a clear death reg and/or an appearence in 1939 whilst 'your' Harold was with George and Margaret. That left these four:

Beckerleg Harold Sidney Francis Beckerleg Penzance 5c 300 EDIT: eliminated - see later posts.
Pacey Harold Sidney Hodson Lincoln 7a 803 EDIT: eliminated - see post #23
Rippin Harold Sydney Rippin Spilsby 7a 905
Rogers Harold Sidney Surman Aston 6d 836 EDIT: eliminated - see post #24

Obviously it's quite possible none of these are your Harold as he may havebegun life with different forenames, but worth ploughing on when there are ony four left. I have run out of time now, but here's what my thoughts are on the above:

1) Can't find him in 1921, maybe with his now-married mother and new surname? Don't remember how hard I looked for a death either Harold H S (no surname) or Harold Sidney F (no surname)!

2) Good for area. Found in 1921 with parents and siblings. Father died 1938 (I think - John R Pacey). Found younger sister with her older sibling in 1939. Not on CWGC website. No death found in Eng/Wales.

3) Didn't have time to begin. Good for area, similar to 1) but no time to look.

4) common name, so need to try harder for a death/1939! Not looked 1921.
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I think Harold Beckerleg is down as Beckerley on the 1921.
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