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[Qwackers]

Hi , have we any idea where George Leicester was born , Mary Lester's Father ? Thanks .As I cannot establish the Ecclestons from 1870 as William Eccleston ' s mother was unmarried on his birth certificate in 1871 , although she married Henry Burriws not long after so I cannot safely follow that line . Thanks

[kiterunner]

On Mary Lester's marriage cert 29 Aug 1846 she is a spinster, full age, abode Windle, father George Lester collier. Witnesses William Naylor and Elizabeth Booth.
And on the 1851 census Mary is age 26, born Sutton Lancashire.

So this could be her family in 1841:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...cklabel=Return
Sutton Park, St Helens, Prescot, Lancashire
George Leicester 45 Coal Miner Y
Elizabeth Do 40 Y
Children: Joseph 18, Mary 15, Bettsey 14, Ann 11, George 9, Elen 2 months.

So we want to find this family in 1851 to see George's birthplace.

[Merry]

Originally Posted by Qwackers

As I cannot establish the Ecclestons from 1870 as William Eccleston ' s mother was unmarried on his birth certificate in 1871 , although she married Henry Burriws not long after so I cannot safely follow that line . Thanks

You need to re-read this thread;

http://www.genealogistsforum.co.uk/F...eccleston+1870

[kiterunner]

Here are the Lesters in 1851:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/interacti...nSearchResults
Water Street, Windle, Lancashire
George Lester Head Mar 56 Coal Miner Windle Lancashire Deaf
Elizabeth Do Wife Mar 50 Sutton Do
Joseph Do Son U 27 Coal Miner Windle Do
Ann Do Daur U 21 Confectioner Sutton Do
John King Visitor U 23 Glass Cutter Eccleston Do
Elizabeth Dagnall Servant U 15 House Servant Rainhill Do.

[kiterunner]

Ellen Lester's birth was registered Apr-Jun 1841 Prescot district, and the online GRO index gives her mother's maiden name as Arrowsmith (it has the surname as Lister, but FreeBMD and Lancashire BMD say Lester, so I think it is a transcription error on the GRO site).

Elizabeth could be a second wife for George given the gap between children on the 1841 census. I haven't managed to find George and Elizabeth's marriage yet.

[kiterunner]

Ellen Lester died in 1844 age 3, by the way.

[kiterunner]

Oh, okay, found the marriage on Lancs OPC and Elizabeth wasn't a second wife:
3 Jan 1820 St Mary the Virgin, Prescot: George Leicester, collier, bachelor, and Elizabeth Arrowsmith, spinster, both of the parish, married by banns, witnesses John Cunliffe and James Harrison.

[kiterunner]

Mary Leicester baptised 21 Aug 1825 St Mary (now St Helen), St Helens, daughter of George and Elizabeth, abode Sutton, father's occupation collier. (Also from Lancs OPC).

[Qwackers]

Hi , I will now purchase the birth certificate of James Eccleston to hopefully establish the mothers maiden name . I searched Prescot marriages for a James Eccleston , and found him in 1864 , but the names of his father and her father don't seem to be correct I think they have been mixed up which is a shame .

[kiterunner]

When and where was James Eccleston born? We might be able to get his MMN from one of the birth indexes.
And who did he marry?